In Reply to: Re: Not so posted by Jim on March 08, 1999 at 09:53:22:
The numbers I mention are dealer invoice prices only. You would still need to add a reasonable amount for dealer profit (see other posts on this board for recomendations on how much). Euro Delivery cars are ordered and paid for at a dealership here in the states. You have to pay for the car in full at least 30 days before you go to Germany to pick it up. Then they send it back (normally takes 6-8 weeks from when you drop it back off in Europe), and pick it up a second time from your local dealer. Disadvantages are that you have to pay for your car long before you get it (doesn't work well if you have a trade). I only posted these numbers so that you could have a negotiating advantage with the dealer. I used the "Rizzo method" (ask Frank for the link) and had great results. I just subtracted the Euro Delivery discount in the calculations, then added in the dealer profit. Hope this helps you...Good luck!
: if I understand you correctly, you are saying that instead of going to the dealer first, I could order a Euro delivery 328i for:
: 27,955 - base
: 1,000 - some option(invoice of sunroof(?))
: 570 - destination
: 29,525(+tax, title...)
: Who gets the profit on the sale? I would send the check to BMW in Germany?
: Could I really get this car at this price?
: Is this what you are saying??
: : Rolfe,
: : The prices you mention are MSRP prices only. I got a brochure that listed the discount off U.S. MSRP from BMW NA. I was talking about true dealer invoice prices (the price the dealer actually pays for the car). For example, the base price (MSRP) of a 328i is $33,400. The base "invoice" price of the same car is $29,725. The MSRP of the same car Euro Delivery would be $31,060 ($33,400 - $2340 discount), but the dealer would actually be paying $27,955 for it instead of the $29,725 they would pay for a US delivered car. Of course you would need to add the $570 destination charge and any options you want to these figures. Does this help?