In Reply to: Re: What sound system do you like? long posted by phil on September 23, 1999 at 23:52:24:
I gotta say it makes me nervous having some installer with no mfgr certification and indeterminate experience cutting into the electrical system and disassembling/reassembling the interior of a new car. This is especially so, given the fact that everything in these cars is wired into the electrical system. If something electrical gets screwed up, you know damn well that the dealer will blame the stereo install, and refuse to do a fix under warrantee. Good luck trying to prove otherwise.
: Sound quality is best entailed by clear imaging
: (sound is coming from a single clear source in the
: center of the cabin -hard to accomplish in a car)
: and a wide soundstage (the sound is at ear level
: and seems to envelope the listener).
: These goals are hard to achieve in a car, which
: is in fact a terrible listening environment. To
: get great SQ, lots of trial and error (my kind of
: engineering :P) would be required...much harder
: than, say, a home, where you simply buy the best
: speakers you can afford and set them down - easy!
: personally, in a car, my standards for SQ are
: lowered by leaps and bounds compared to what i expect
: out of a home system - i don't feel like spending
: the $ and time needed, instead, i want to listen
: to music, simply.
: awhile ago, someone said great music is still great
: music however well it is reproduced, and vice versa.
: to get to the point, hk is probably not worth
: 600 dollars. for 600 you can buy a new amp/
: crossovers for your stock speakers, and it will
: sound much clearer with more bass definition, which
: is lacking in either system. i'll forget about
: a subjective review of the systems, they're such
: a matter of personal opinion, but i did get the
: stock sytem intending to upgrade. so far, i have
: been enjoying the car too much to care about the
: stereo, and it is more than adequate. with the
: windows down at 65, i start to notice the lack in
: power (where's the bass? all treble, hehe) but
: with the windows closed, there isn't that much
: to complain about.
: to those considering the HK...i would take that $600
: and buy a decent four channel amp and crossovers.
: remember the only way to audition is with the cd
: player...the fm quality is, indeed, poor.
: my ideal setup, once i get over the thrill of the
: driving part (maybe never):
: mb quart 6.5 2 way component set, disconnect
: midrange spkr wire but leave spkr in to avoid rattles
: remove rear midbass, cut wires to tweets.
: two 12" solobarics in a sealed box in trunk
: four channel PPI amp for fronts (biamped)
: big honking PPI amp for subs
: phoenix gold 1/3rd octave EQ
: stock head unit for now, until a suitable
: trim piece is on the market and harness that
: keeps steering wheel controls <-- love 'em!
: well sorry for rambling but i have a great love
: for music and the way it is reproduced.
: sound system - 1260 miles on the exhaust,
: sounding better every day
: : Some people like sound system with hard, deep bass, systems were you could hear each Bass, Treble, and Mid Range note clearly and enjoyable. Iím one of these people that like good quality sound system at high volumes at least 300 watts minimum.
: : Others are just fine with what the car comes with I imagine close to 100 watts all speaker put together. The problem with this stock systems ( the one I got on my 323Ci w/CD changer) is that to my trained ear I can tell the difference in sound quality, and its bad, the way I describe it is it sounds like all bass treble and mid range is all coming out of the same place threw a cone or something like that. I like in long island and the FM stations are terrible on the stock sound system
: : Now the HK system ( the one my brother got in his 323I) it is much better than the stock system, but still not even close to having a custom sound system.
: : Put simple I often listen to both sound system stock in my car and HK in my brotherís car, and now I appreciate the HK system much more. The reason I got stock sound system was because I did not like the sound of the HK system. And thought I will add amps, eq and crossover and keep the head unit to keep the controls on the steering wheel, but BUT BUT, now I kick my self because the stock sound system seems to have bad signal quality coming out from the head unit. I concluded this from listening to the FM radio.
: : Well I told my dealer how I felt, he says that since the car is a new model that there really is not after market product for the 323Ci,,,, he made some calls and found out that in LA is were car products come out firstÖ well this week heís getting two audio catalog magazines for the E46 and one of them is for me. I hope I can find something in that catalog. Ill post anything good.
: : Later Pat