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Re: Rudy's comment - "speed doesn't kill" (long) (archive)

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Posted by Jeff on October 06, 1999 at 08:12:07:

In Reply to: Re: Rudy's comment - "speed doesn't kill" (long) posted by V on October 05, 1999 at 21:11:31:

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: Rudy, ok.. let's try this again.

: The article proves NOTHING. The article is about raising the speed limit up 10mph and the highway death rate after that. It has nothing to do with what you were doing. You were driving 100mph, that's not even close to the raised speed limit on the article. Why the hell are you using the article to back yourself up? The only conclusion you can draw from the article is - There isn't a direct correlation between raising the speed limit from 55mph to 65mph and the highway death rate. Besides, maybe we can't even draw that conclusion, since there are too many variable that needs to be taken into account, for instance, the cars have improved over the years(DSC, AST, better stopping distance, maneuverbility, lighting). The road's are getting safer, too. More signs are installed at dangerous corners. How do you do an accurate compensation for all these effects over the years? You can't.

: Ok, so let's do a simple test that's not subject any of these uncertainties.

: You, Rudy, a self-proclaimed "cautious driver", drive at 100mph.

: You, again, Rudy, a self-proclaimed "cautious driver", drive at 50 mph.

: Suddenly, two cow run in front of you, a 747 falls out of the sky, and the 18 wheeler in the opposite lane crosses the central divider coming right at you.

: Which one of the Rudy above has a better chance to:
: 1) stop the car to avoid the accident. Or
: 2) maneuver the car around to avoid the accident. Or
: 3) do any other maneuver to avoid the accident.

: I hope your answer is the 50mph Rudy. Speed does matter. A safe driver driving at a safe speed can only make him a even safer driver (a safe driver drving 100mph can still be safe, but not as safe as when he's driving 50mph). Think about it Rudy.

: P.S - If your answer to the above question is not the 50mph Rudy. I am not going to say anything anymore, please just continue to drive cautiously at 100mph.


Why don't you read your own post? Yes many variables have to be considered, as you point out cars and roads have improved in many ways. So in the 50's when speed limits were the same as they are today or higher and people were driving land Yachts with bias ply tires, drum brakes etc. at 65 mph. Your telling us all that a 2000 BMW at 100mph is more dangerous than those things? No I don't support it but I think in the right circumstances speeds of 100mph or more are very safe. Key words being "right circumstances" I think a national speedlimit is assenine though. No way the same speed limit is appropriate on all highways. 65mph through a city and the same through an isolated 5 mile stretch of highway. Give me a break. Mostly its a way to raise revenues. I also agree that not all vehicles or drivers are capable of this and am not sure how it could be regulated (not that it ever will) but it would be nice to see something like a high speed lane for people who have passed a performance driving school and whose cars have checked out safe to do so and carry appropriate insurance. Something like that would make sense although it will never happen. But maybe none of this would work, because in my opinion America has the worst drivers in the world.


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