In Reply to: Re: A couple of things. posted by Larry on October 06, 1999 at 15:57:49:
Both Kelly and NADA publish 'consumer' editions of the price guides. These don't have the wholesale prices of the cars. In addition, I suspect that the retail prices in the consumer editions may be higher then in the dealer additions.
You do know what NADA stands for? National Automobile Dealers Association. Don't you think that, as a group, they have a vested interest in pushing up prices? I don't trust them. I have no idea who publishes Kelly, but they too have a consumer edition, which also makes me suspicious. Edmund's doesn't appear to have any conflicts of interest.
As far as dealing with the dealers goes, stick to your guns. I'm seeing some of the used E36s hanging around the showrooms a while (does Manhattan still have that Indigo 328is Sport?). If you show you're willing to walk, and won't be bullied, they'll deal.
: : Ha! Of course we all prefer Edmunds because they have the most affordable rates, however the reality is that in the New York metro area a good 90% of the bimmers are being sold by the dealers who seem to be looking at Kelley or NADA or worse. I only use Manhattan as an extreme reference, but if you look at the Sunday New York Times, you will see that a '97 328is will range in (asking) price between 30,000 and 33,000 depending on mileage and that is up dramatically from 6 months ago.