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Dragsters different, too much power for clutch. (archive)

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Posted by Rudy on May 08, 2000 at 14:36:32:

In Reply to: My point (since obviously you missed it) posted by lk on May 08, 2000 at 14:32:27:

: ...was not to compare F1 trans to BMW step.

: It WAS to illustrate the fact that manually shifting a car is a very slow process compared to how fast the computer can shift it when requested to do so from the driver. (no, i'm not talking about fully automatic mode, for all of you who STILL don't know how step works)

: ALSO, i'm trying to point out that the driveline losses are probably MORE than compensated for when you can have your car shift this fast. For many (most?) drivers, it's not a contest, unless (as pointed out before) they wanna replace their shift linkages and clutches every 10,000 miles.

: OK, so we don't wanna compare F1 to BMW step. Let's look at a typical car raced at any dragstrip. ALMOST ALL of the fast modified street cars at any drag race are automatics.

: Those guys spend TONS of money trying to shave off the next 0.1s from their 1/4 time, their 60ft time, etc. Don't you think they'd be using the faster transmission if stick was faster?!?! of course they would, and even the manual drivers will tell you the manual is a huge reason why their cars arent faster.

: I like manuals too, but don't kid yourself... there aren't many places where it's preferrable to be driving one to a modern automatic like BMW's (well, GM's) steptronic.

: I'VE OWNED BOTH TYPES OF E46'S! Without question, this steptronic is faster for me...and yes, I can drive a manual!

: Not to mention the really lame-o clutch in the E46 either...try an E36 M3 if you wanna know how that ZF trans is supposed to feel.




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