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Don't take any of this personally, Jon, but ... (archive)
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Posted by d5s56cd4 on April 16, 2001 at 11:14:35:

In Reply to: All part of the training... posted by Jon Shafer on April 15, 2001 at 22:42:11:

... it's not just car salespeople I "slam in public forums." It's ALL sales and marketing people (or as comedian Bill Hicks used to call them, "Satan's Minions." He then asked audience members in s&m to kill themselves!).

Here's the problem: sales and marketing is all about "overcoming objections," which by both definition and practice, is immoral. For me, I try to educate myself independently, well in advance before buying anything, so salespeople (and the whole retail part of the chain, for that matter) are a completely unnecessary middle layer between the manufacturer/wholesale distributer and me.

Not to worry, Jon: in the future, when I order anything and everything directly over the 'net, you'll have no problem with a career transition, as you are skilled (web-savvy) and ethical.

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