Yes you have pointed out resources - I have visited them 100's of times...

If you are so damned bored by my posts - don't read them. Guess I'm not wasting YOUR time as you have enough time on your hands to read and reply to all of my posts.

Maybe you are a multi-millionaire - if so, good for you. I'm not, and I'm careful; and, unless you can write off a car for business, I don't believe in leasing cars. Leasing allows the average person to buy a car that they cannot afford and have no business driving.

I'm a cash buyer. I either put away money for a long time or finance the vehicle in a way that I can write-off the interest. Either way, this is a big expenditure; and I want to learn all that I can.

From past experience, Internet trade-in figures are not real world figures...they are completely inaccurate. The only accurate source is the dealer's black book which I do not have access to.

The crap that you buy in Barnes & Nobles (black book/NADA, etc.) is junk - absolute junk. Unfortunately I don't have access to the real figures.

Thus, I'm trying to see if someone on the board does.