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Posted by DL on April 24, 2002 at 11:14:31:

In Reply to: I would recommend holding off for the moment (m) posted by DaveK on April 22, 2002 at 15:41:01:


Apologies in advance - this is long.

I purchased the "demon eyes" from Bruce at Omnitech. Installed them and was very dissatisfied with the results. The light intensity (brightness) was very unsatisfactory and washed out almost completely when I turned the low beam lights on. I definitely like the "angel eye" look, so want to figure out some way to make this work.

BTW, ask [email protected] where the term "angel eyes" came from - interesting story.

So I purchased the kit from Levi in hopes that the OEM product he is selling would be better. I don't know where he's getting them from, but they do seem to be the OEM Hella product. The quality of the halo is very much superior to the Omnitech product and the fiber optics are of excellent quality. We can't get these in the US for some reason (neither can the dealer - there's no parts listing as they come as an integral unit with the E39 and E65 headlight housing).

Levi's product quality is excellent as was the buying experience (Levi was very helpful, very informative, and cooperative), but I couldn't install them. He claims to have a friend who has installed these on an E38 - he sent me pictures which look good, but no instructions, so I don't know how it was accomplished.

My experience --

I tried to install them in my '95 740iL. No luck. I sourced the bulbs from the E65 (from Circle BMW for $18 each) to drive the fiber optics. The E65 bulbs already had the reflectors built in and is THE bulb the E65 uses to drive its halos. I got a small fabrication box (plastic) from Radio Shack (approximately 2x3x1) to hold the bulb, which I fabricated to accomodate the bulb and the halos using my Dremel tool. I lined the box inside with aluminum reflective tape to further enhance the reflective properties of the bulb and to act as a heat shield. I mounted the box and bulb to the headlight housing and installed the fiber optics. Pretty slick installation, actually.

I had to play with the housing to route the fibers to the front. I had them coming out the sides and through the middle (had to do a little cutting to get one of the fibers through the middle, but it was the best location for one of the fiber leads on the low-beam side). I trimmed the clear plastic lens so it would hold the rings. I had to cut fairly sizeable holes in the top of the lens, which I didn't like, because the fiber receptors are approximately a half inch in diameter. I attached the fibers and attempted to reinstall the lens.

BIG PROBLEM ! ! ! Everything with the installation was going so well up to this point. Seems that no matter what I did, the part of the rings that attaches to the fiber optics interferes with the reflectors. I definitely do not want to cut into the reflectors, so I thought about trimming the rings. I realized that I would have to trim the rings nearly to the point that Bruce's (Omnitech) rings were, which would still make it difficult to attach the fiber optics.

Bottom line - I had to abandon the project and now I have to buy new lens (already ordered them from [email protected]). I had already painted my lens for the Chromeline look but, since I now had to get new lens, I ordered the real thing.

John Carey also bought the kit from Levi and is trying to figure out how to make it work. We're been sharing war stories on the subject. I sent him the E65 bulbs I bought so he could further experiment. Maybe he can jump in on this discussion with his $.02.

I really like the angel eye look and want to figure out a way to make this work. So, I've done some research into the LED approach, which Bruce's solution uses. The best quality and brightest LEDs I can find are made by Nichia. They're much better quality than the Omnitech LEDs, but the cost about $5 US each, too. I ordered ten from them and ordered some small LED reflective housings from another fiber optic company to focus the light beam. I'm going to try a small variation on the Omnitech approach using the Nichia LEDS and Levi's rings (they're much better quality than what Bruce includes in his kit).

When I receive all the parts and complete the installation, I'll let the board know what happened. I've now received everything except the new lens from Bekkers. That could take awhile, since they're shipping from Germany.

DaveK
'95 Aspen Silver 740iL

Has anyone delt with this guy who's selling the fibre optic angel eyes on ebay? He's selling these for about $250 bucks without the light source. If he can get the actual rings and fibre optics, why can't we??? Does anyone have the part numbers for these parts? I understand that there are a couple of outfits that are coming out with this version here in the US. Has anyone talked to Bruce (the angel eye guru) about this?






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