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some have said I am full of $hit for my story (722 views) (1849 thread views) 
Message: about my blown wngine and that I never denied anywhere that I did not "over rev" mechanically....meaning downshifting. Well, my answer to that is that I may have done it. However, there are a few points I want to make:

I just found out after looking at my paperwork, that during my scheduled service a week before my engine failed, I went in and there was a recall on oil change do to the things that were happening in Europe and the engine failures. The service dept, changed my oil and filter, only to put back 5-30 and not the new 10W/60! We also now know (which I didnt at the time) that their have been several engine failures in Europe where the car was released earlier than the US. So for those that state that there's nothing wrong with the engines, YOU dont know for sure.

I agree that many people are BSing, yet there seems to be unanswered questions, especially regarding earlier built cars such as mine.

My big issue started 2 weeks ago when I asked to get a copy of my read out from the BMW NA rep that took it. I figured that after paying for a new engine (BMW and dealer agreed to pay a part after I questioned a bit as a "good will" act) I should still have the right to see what really happened! Now they REFUSE to show it to me and thats a Problem.

Another question I have is why are they covering a "driver error" when Joe Smoe blows the engine, yet when Mr. X blows it, they dont. Are they "feeling" things out....is it a "survival of the fittest" attitude with BMW NA?!

After seeing several postings of different engine prices and labor costs, I called BMW NA customer service (wont mention the name of anyone - yet) and asked them "how can this be"? How can I get charged 16k and others 14k or 17k?? She said that the dealers are responsible for that. I think that is ridiculous!!! I understand labor costs can be different, but for somehting like an engine failure, and then its not covered!! by warranty, how can BMW NA allow price discrepancy on a major item like that. So be warned, check the pricing if you have such an issue.

Also, a question I raised to BMW NA....when my friend got MSRP back from BMW for a diff problem, and when I traded my 01 M3 back to dealer, this was all cars that were "settled" by consumer and BMW, so they werent lemon laws nor where involved in accidents! So, BMW turns them around, sells them for MSRP again (or close) and never informs the new buyer that this car with 3 or 6k has a NEW engine, or a new diff or anything like that. I CANT SEE THAT AS BEING FAIR and definately shouldnt be legal!

Going back to my potential "over rev". I want to see proof! and not just BMW stating I did. However, even with proof, others have shown over revs when their really wasnt any! Some people stated that the gage is "close" to reality but not accurate.

All I know is that my rev limiter never kicked in at 8000! Why are all the cars different?!. Was the oil starvation and the fact I had 5W/30 at fault as well? why wont they relenquish data from ECU, etc etc.

Some people say that M coupes and roadster dont have the issue. Well, that engine is different in a way and the rev limiter is lower and the gearing is different (longer) as well as the throttle response is slower! So lets forget that side of the story. I still believe (and so does my lawyer) that theres enough circumstancial evidence (or unanswered questions) to open an inquiry on whats happening with these engines. Lets not forget that it was an engine that was delayed for over 1 year due to major problems.

Lastly.....8560 sticks to mind. if you think that it the max recorded rpm, thats BS. If a cars red line is 8000, no way can max recorded RPM be 8560. In a true "mis shift" from 4th to 1st is typical, we're talking major RPMS....that my friends is "driver error".

A car that you down shift from 4th to 3rd and hit 8400 rpms, thats an over rev and engine should take it!


 
 



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