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Re: You must NOT use this device. (archive)

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Posted by Justin Gibson on June 25, 2000 at 18:21:45:

In Reply to: You must NOT use this device. posted by Dave on June 25, 2000 at 17:45:04:

Dave,

Sorry about your misfortune, and good luck to your son.

However, I feel it necessary to note a few things:

1) Bob is a professional (I believe). I recall him posting that he has been a mechanic for many years (and owns his own shop?).

2) Although the device is dangerous, when proper precautions are taken, anything is "safe". If someone chooses to create/use this device, yes, they are taking a risk. However with proper ventilation and careful safety measures, this device is no more dangerous than many DIY jobs on a car. Of course, you must always treat flammables (gas especially) with respect. Everyone on the board I'm sure knows this.

3) Although I strongly agree with you posting that message and alerting everyone of the POSSIBLE dangers of the device, I disagree strongly with the way you presented it. You are not my father/guardian, and I will do what I wish. Your post was too much more than a strong warning. I understand you've had tragedy in your family, and for that I'm extremely sorry, but you can not tell people NOT to build this device. I hope people don't go and buy testers that cost 100's of dollars simply because you scared them off. Bob would not have presented this information if he felt that anyone would be hurt.

I in no way mean this post as a bash. However, I can't just watch someone completely destroy a great idea simply because of an event in their own life. Again, I am very sorry for your son, and wish you all the best luck in the future, but please keep your next warning to only that, a warning.

Thanks for your input, and to anyone who does make this device, please be careful, but don't be scared.

Justin Gibson
gibs@abac.com
88 M6 Black/Grey

: : The Scraeder valve is mounted in place of the top center connector and is removed to permit filling of the container with gasoline/cleaner.

: : The Hose connects to a tube that goes almost to the bottom of the container so it is immersed in the fuel/cleaner.

: : The gauge is screwed into a fitting attached to the tank top.

: : The original overpressure safety valve is retained to vent excess pressure.

: : The Hose valve is a simple ball valve.

: : The hose-to-injector fitting is one I made on a lathe that allows the FI w/ its "O" Ring to be inserted, but one could just as well use a hose clamp on the hose and insert the FI into the hose end.

: : The whole affair cost under $10.

: : I have also posted a picture of the electronic FI energizer I mentioned, though you can just as well energize the FI with test clips directly.

: : Hope this helps,
: : Bob

: Bob:

: I am usually a quiet "lurker" here, but you have created a very dangerous BOMB and I must comment. My son was horribly burned in 1996 when the lawn mower gas tank he was filling exploded. 5 painful operations later he is yet to regain anything resembling a normal life.

: Your device is pressurized DEATH. NEVER spray gasoline or any flammable liquid into the air. Even a small static spark could set the atomized liquid off destroying your whole life or that of someone you love.

: Leave such testing to qualfified, trained persons. Amateurs like you are literally playing with FIRE and you have no idea what you are doing.

: One gallon of gasoline is equivalent to 9 sticks of dynamite. Never forget this. I even pay the additional 15 cents per gallon to have my gasoline pumped at the service station and I make sure I and my family are NOT in the car when it is being serviced.

: It is cheap insurance since NO amount of insurance can replace your life when it has been destroyed by such "innocent" materials.

: I hope NO ONE builds your device, and that you throw yours away before you hurt yourself.

: Regards,
: Dave




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