Just making a point, Phil. I'm not advocating violence, that was a figure of speach...sort of coaching Mike on his salesmanship. If he had stated for example, that the euro bumper was smaller, sleaker and the US airdam would fit then I would have offered to purchase it from him. These things I still don't know and apparently no one else knows or is willing to enlighten me and others about. I'm curious, what am I needing to search long and hard for? Cheers!