new pump scottie all the fluids are clean its coming from the shock towers turning the wheel and rolling around the driveway i just checked it again.its a stretchin, rubbing, non metalic groan when you the turn the wheel thanks for the feedback BSAndy 84 533i Probably your power steering pump. But this has been linked to a dirty steering fluid filter. The filter is located at the bottom of your fluid reserve can. You will need to drain the fluid. Good luck! Scottie