Hey Capt. Al, I tried to E:Mail you directly, hope it goes thru this time. I am over from the E24 (6er) board, but check in to this board for this very reason. I have been thinking about upgrading to 17" wheels on my 6er and am curently running E28 M5 wheels. They are in fantastic shape and I have other good news for you. I am also in the Bay Area, South in Sunnyvale. So it should be fairly easy for you to check them out in person. I E:Mailed you photos, so if that message goes thru, you can see them. Get back to me when you get a chance. Bobbo 1980 633 CSi