Some of these people driving them don;t deserive it but there a some e30 owners as well!I like the fact that they can make a 4 bangger out run an over powered v8.Its funny to see them at the drag strip staging spinnin the hell out of those front tires next to a MUSTANG and every redneck out there cussing saying ther's no way it'll win then they launch and the CIVIC pulls away from the MUSTANG the whole way!Gotta give credit half the cylinders and smokin v8's like home grown!Hats off to the guys that aren't asses............. but most are!