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Holy Sh*t, you guys.... (archive)

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Posted by JamesM on September 21, 2000 at 08:48:54:

In Reply to: Notice how rice-boys are impressed by the M3? posted by JamesM on September 15, 2000 at 06:35:09:

Damn!! I think many of you took what I said the wrong way. I did not mention or even imply the words "race", "drag race", or "all Hondas suck". Yes, I do think that most Hondas suck, and you can quote me on that. But they make good cars for commuting, family, get great gas mileage, are very affordable, etc, etc. I'll even admit that the S2000 and NSX (I thought it was discontinued a long time ago) are good performance cars. The NSX is a great 100+ HP/liter, mid engine, aluminum galore car, and the S2000 (240HP?!?!) is a pocket rocket. The Integra Type R is no match for the M3, though. Yes, they're successful in SCCA Pro, but the rear-wheel drive cars are automatically assessed a weight penalty, because rear wheel drive cars handle better than front-wheel drive cars. 170HP at what, 7000+RPM, 110lb-ft of torque? Sounds like an overgrown motorcycle engine to me. OK, OK, enough Honda bashing.

The orginal point was to bash the stereotypical snot-nosed high-school kid you see with the 8" exhaust pipe blaring from a tin-can sounding engine, cut springs with 1" of suspension travel left, and either steel wheels 'cause he's too poor after sinking $2000 into the stupid non-functional wing and ugly front air-dam, or 18"x6" Niche triple-chrome-flaking wheels with 205/30/18 Crappo tires. It just so happens that most of these fools do it to Hondas. But there are plenty of VWs, Toyotas, Hyundais (hard to believe), Saturns (even harder to believe), Neons, and you-name-it "Sport" compact cars.

And now for my second point: Start off with a better car!!! Yes, you may be able to beat my stock M3 in a drag race with your Prelude and $4000 in mods, but my M3 smoke your "sportscar" at a real race track. Engine mods are fine, but the reason BMWs are better is because they have been track tested for chassis, suspension, steering, braking, and all-around balance. From the lowly 318i to the 850CSi and all models in between, each one has spent hundreds of developmental hours at the track.

So, to re-cap: Original point was that "riceboys are impressed with M3s." Not "Hondas suck and everyone should own an M3." Rice boys are people, not Hondas.

In the immortal words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just...get along?"

James ///M
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