Easy, my dad owns an S4 as his daily driver and he can definately appreciate "real" sports cars. He also owns a Lotus Esprit and his first car, which he just rebuilt a 61 356b porsche. He's owned various other alfa's and porsches. And sure all he can say about the s4 that he loves it.(a little too quiet though) He also loves that he can take the family or drive in the snow, but still kill me at the track.