Since I'm dealing with family, I want him to get fair value if he sells to me. On the other hand I don't want to get ripped off. Kelley's and N.A.D.A. set retail at 10 to 12 thousand. Sounds great. But I keep searching the internet for postings and see guys asking 15, 17, 20 thousand for similar cars, similarly equipped. This would be much more difficult for me to afford. Does anyone have a guestimate for me? Are the retail services good for guaging the value of a car like this? Are the ads a better indicator, or do people generally jack up the asking price of these cars and sell closer to blue book range? Help!