I currently run 225/50/15 Dunlop sp 8000 on stock rims. I have run 509 and AVS intermediates. The 8000 have VERY good wet grip and solid handleing. The ware rate is about the same as the AVSs. These are $99 each on tirerack.com P-zeros are $142. The servay results are better for the dunlops. I found the AVS had a harder (less grip) core under the tread. The tire ware exposed the harder rubber after 2/3 of the tread wore off. My grip suffered accordingly. I will get a second set of 8000 when these are done.