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In Reply to: To Justin: posted by Sean on January 06, 2000 at 11:18:09:
... I really don't take much online stuff very seriously. I wasn't offended... I was simply saying, that selling the car would be dependant on someone seeing it. You and the rest of the E31 community might not believe me (I doubt you do), but there are enough shops around me that have seen the car (and documentation), and generally concur with the value (Bavarian Motorsports, ERT, Sport Car Tire, etc.). So, until you see it, you could slam it all you want, and I still wouldn't really care.
The only thing I am upset about is the popular opinion that I am a big domestic fan. ;-) j/k. However, I really am not into the American muscle. I like the challenge of that the import scene offers.
Although, in the light of day, I like to think I stick to the "buy-a-car-for-its-purpose" philosophy, deep down, I love making slow things fast.
The challenge of turning a car that the world thinks of as "slow" into a 11 or 12 second 1/4 miler is too tempting to pass up. A friend of mine has a turbo Eclipse. It is lightly modified. Without the giggle gas, I am about 3 car lengths ahead at 65mph. Now, many people ask me why I didn't build a turbo Eclipse... they have obviously never seen the disbelief across the faces of those as they say... "That's a non-turbo!?!"
This is not to say that I don't respect starting in FRONT of the eightball, too... why else would I buy a Gixxer 1100 instead of the 600F3?
I respect just about everycamp... even the guys who don't care/know how to drive their cars. I mean, that's great... once they die, their cars will at least live on forever. I am not kidding... that is how antique cars come to be antiques; that's how they survive.
Whether or not people feel the need to be defensive due to the fact that they think I am criticizing them is their own perogative. However, the people who pussy-foot their cars from place to place should at least recognize that they are doing such. Just as I recognize that my driving style lends itself to maintenance intesive old age. I don't really care when people come down on me about making a car perform... it's everyone's own perogative on how they drive; so long as they recognize how they drive.
The way this comes out on this board is in the E31-is-a-slow-ass-POS-but-we-like-it-anyway posts. What I hope everyone realizes, that after compiling my index of driving styles, there is a remarkable correlation between the guys who don't drive their E31's hard by ANY definition (flooring it at a light is not driving it hard)... no shit they would post that the E31 was slow. I would say my bike was slow if my idea of performance driving is it simply full throttle and hold on! Like I said to Patrick Jackson... there are a lot of these guys that would buy an F50 and call it slow because they would drop the clutch at 3k and hit full throttle with a couple shifts thrown in for good measure. The only reason they might not call it slow, is because the guys who have driven it right, call it fast... and they wouldn't want to look dumb.
So, guys like you can slam/flame all you want... I am amused that people can get so worked up by someone they don't really know. Other than that, I could really care less. The poll served it's purpose, the bet was resolved, and I now know who to take serious when another E31-is-Slow post comes up.
Like I said, if Phil S. or Josh (they can drive, by the sounds of it) said that they lost to something like a GTP, I would be shocked with derision for the sluggishness of the E31... but if someone from the "You-Stupid-Rice-Boy-Racer-You-Are-Destroying-A-Good-Car" list posts that they got reemed by a GTP... I would know why... and it ain't the car.
With 137hp to the wheels, I beat about half the M3 field through the traps at Rockingham park one spring Sunday. It sure as hell wasn't their M3's that was holding them back.
Justin