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Re: Is it really a CSi? (archive)

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Posted by Len Cacioppo on January 24, 2000 at 11:56:06:

In Reply to: Is it really a CSi? posted by James on January 23, 2000 at 13:49:34:

: I find it hard to believe that someone who knows so little about the 8 series actually goes out and buys the extremly rare top of the line model, apparently sight unseen, and has it shipped to him.
: Are you located in the US, and is it a US spec car?
: Quite a few sellers misrepresent thier cars as a CSi, and since you are just learning about your new car, maybe you are not aware of the big differences in the CSi and an ordinary 850.
: Since the CSi was built by the Motorsports division, if it is a US spec car the VIN will start with WBS intead of WBA, and it will have a 6 speed manual transmission.
: There are plenty of other differences, mainly performance related. Ignore the misinformation about real CSi's having no back seat. All E31's 1993 and newer have a fold down rear seat.
: Welcome to the E31 board, now log off and go enjoy driving your car!

Actually I did a considerable amount of research. I would question your basis of judging my knowledge level based on my questions alone. First of all, the BMW press release specifies the car as a 2+2 coupe (I can provide the link if needed for those others who insist that there isn't one [I know YOU know this already]). This should the back seat issue put to bed. As for the "sight unseen comment", this was not how it was handled exactly. My neighbor is a sales man for the BMW dealership where I purchased the car. I knew I wanted a CSi for MANY years, but could not afford one until this stage of my life. I knew about the VIN numbers, the S70 vs. the M70 motor, the suspension differences etc. I brought this car (VIN number) to my dealer neighbor and told him to get more information on it. It turns out that the owner of the BMW dealership here is a good friend with the owner of the dealership in Pennsylvania. The owner in PA assured the owner in CA that the car was in great shape.

I also did a title search on the car. Including calling BMW in NJ to learn that the car was originally bought from a dealership in Connecticut by the dealership in PA and sold to a guy who leased it. The guy who leased it was a personal friend of the owner of the dealership, so I was comfortable when I was told that it was not out in the winter.

I also purchased the CD with all of the TSB's and recalls on it. I read EVERY one.

As for the lack of knowledge regarding the internal operations of the car…If I had known that the car was going to come without an instruction manual, I would have researched that as well (it's my nature). I have owned two 3-series in the past, and my wife has one now. However, there are differences in the controls between the 3-series and the 7/8-series. Just because I don't know the nuances of some controls does not indicate I "…knows so little" about the car in general. Heck…I went to the BMW Dealership and THEY couldn't tell me how to program the voice-activated phone. They are SUPPOSED to be the experts. I don't feel so bad when I can't get answers from them.



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