Ok son, lets go get our books and quote figures, any idiot can do that, it's what you do with them that counts. Put your soccer hat on straight and figure out what your going to do with Torque ft. lbs mixed with Bhp and Rpm. The 454 is a wonderful engine but it looses Torque and Bhp when it gets into the high RPM ranges. If that is profanity then your mom kept you in church class way too long. Don't worry, it'll grow. Sorry but I'm gonna catch another ride, this one is getting boring. Kurt.G