I Laz, It's amazing how close the cars actually are. In fact there are many times I wish I had a V8 for so many reasons. Familiarity and ability to expand or play with it. The V8 is an awesome engine as well, great if not incredible car!! I guess the V12 is just sort of the step out of control, you know, a great no mans land area where it's fun to play and try things. Both very great cars. Long live the E31!!!!!!!!!!1 Kurt