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Posted by Brian P on April 05, 2001 at 23:45:14:

In Reply to: what drives the dealer idiotic comment... posted by txhedg on April 05, 2001 at 17:53:56:

what drives his comment is that the dealer way of "fixing" things on an E32 is just replacing stuff until they find out what was causing the problem. Obviously this is big $$. I would NEVER think about taking my car to a dealer....not because I can't afford it (I can)....but because they have no interest in working on these cars, so they just charge you big $$ and hope you won't come back and hassle them anytime soon. Their grease monkeys are trained for the new cars (most built since 1995), and my bet if you go look, most of them were still in high school (or elementary) when the majority of the E32s were being dealer serviced often (under warranty) during the first 3-5 years on the road.

So, find a good independent BMW shop that has experience with the V12. Not every "BMW specialist" is good with the V12 or the E32, but there is usually at least one in every city who is. Post a Q on this board to get a suggestion for one close to you.

For what its worth, while shopping for my car, one dealer told me I was stupid to buy a 750, and instead tried to sell me a 740 with the original block. When I asked about whether it had passed a leak-down test (signals a bad block, common on the 740), he had no idea what I was talking about. Shows how little the dealers know. I told him he was an idiot and walked out.

Now the bad news.....these cars are not cheap to fix. When something does go bad, the part is usually never cheap. But, usually the dealer price is 2x to 3x more than quality aftermarket parts every bit a good as that the dealer offers.

So, don't worry too much. It aint gonna be cheap, but for the price you paid for your car (assuming you got it at "market"), its a hell of a great car for a relatively small amount of money. Just keep up on the maintenance, change the fluids regularly, and try some DIY work, and it wont bankrupt you. Typically, most say maintenance is $100 - $300 a month, but NOT every month, maybe once or twice a year to the tune of a few thousand$. Like I said, not cheap.

Overall, great car. Wouldn't trade mine for anything. Seriously.

'91 750il 95k

Yes...I'm the one with the brake problems...

Just talked to a BMW dealer service guy about the brakes and I had mentioned to him that I just bought this car and he point out blank asked me if I was rich? they he followed up and said that I'll need to be.

They he made a very bold statement saying that the 89 750iL is probably the worst car that BMW has ever made! He starting listing off all the things that typically go wrong with this car....ouch!

About the brakes....he thinks that it's the 'hydro ball'. What the hell is that? He said that it's in the firewall and VERY expensive to replace. Any ideas?


Just like txhdg just said - some things on these cars can be expensive to replace.
However - my personal experience has shown that once you fix any problems there and then properly you are pretty much 'out of the woods'.
I (like many more of you) picked a 1988 750 up cheap in 1997 with 96,000 miles on it and then spent another 1/3 of the purchase price on replacing / repairing the standard ailments in a car of this age. During this 12/ 18 month period of first ownership I spent the aforementioned $300 (australian, $150 US)average per month but since then ........ I have spent only a couple of hundred dollars in the past 18 months. (minor cosmetic stuff).
So ...... to summarise ..... I would think that the "high budget" maintenance suggested on these cars will pretty much be temporary as you bring your car back to 'square one' if you desire, in the first year or two of ownership.
If you do this - I bet you will be like a hell of a lot of others across the globe that once their car is in this condition - even the grim reaper will have to pry the car from your hands upon death.
Brian P.
p.s. just don't end up fixing things 'twice'. Do it (or get it done) properly in the first place.

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