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Re: Hey now, I resemble those remarks!!! (more) (archive)

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Posted by BMW Newbie (1badgmc) on November 20, 2000 at 11:40:34:

I own a lowered truck on billet wheels! They're only 17's, but nonetheless. It is my daily driver/show truck. '91 GMC stepside lowered 5/8 with Eibach and BellTech components and rolling on 17" Weld wheels. There is not one inch of the truck, from the front to the rear, that I have not modified in some way. It's an expression of my personality and, for me, it's a part of my lifestyle.

>First off, I respect the time and effort that you and others put into modifying trucks. I have seen some modified trucks that are quite striking, and I believe they do have their own special place. I'm not condemning you for owning a truck, but I think that the majority of truck owners (and most everyone else) would be better off if they drove cars.

I didn't buy my truck to haul any kind of load, but with the fiberglass bed cover I have, I can haul more groceries in the bed of my truck than you could if you filled the truck, rear seat, and passenger seat of our 5-series Bimmers. When I want to do any sort of heavy hauling, I just borrow my dad's crew cab dually.

>You stated that you did not buy your truck to haul loads. Hauling loads is, however, what largely what trucks are designed to do. And while you may be able to get more groceries in the bed of your truck than I can cram in my 535, the truck doesn't compare nearly as well to a E34 Touring.

2 wheel drive trucks were never built for any sort of serious off-road duties anyhow. If you want to do any off-roading, you need to buy a 4x4. Our BMWs would be almost as capable as the trucks. The F-150 Lightning and the GMC Syclone/Typhoon hot rods of a few years back for that matter, are only slightyly less capable of driving across a field (because that's about all you'd want to do in a 2wd pickup to begin with) than the normal versions of those trucks. You would be surprised at some of the places I have taken my truck with it's 3" of ground clearance.

>You'd also be surprised at some of the places I took a VW Scirocco. Granted, even a lowered pickup will have an offroad advantage over a car because trucks are built to withstand offroad abuse. But if you were planning on taking the truck offroad regularly, why the hell would you lower it?

I also own an SUV. Though this SUV was built many years before the SUV craze started, and I have owned it for a few years before the craze started, it is still an SUV. It's an '84 GMC fullsize Jimmy. It is a project in the works. It too will be lowered and it is going to be motivated by a '96 Corvette LT1 motor. Again, this is an expression of my personality. I am what I am.

>I'd have to say you're rather irrational. You're going to radically modify a truck, compromising its sole purpose of hauling crap offroad, so that it can't do that any better than any station wagon. And place a large engine in it to bring its acceleration on par with a Chevy Caprice Classic. Right.

I guess my reason for all this ranting is that you shouldn't put down every single truck and SUV owner just because that is what they choose to drive. People have their reasons. Trucks are easy to get a hold of, they can last forever (I have 189,000 and counting on my '91), and they are cheap and easy to maintain. Some people want the hauling and towing capacity. Some people like the image. Others use them as a canvas to express themselves. But the one reason for buying a truck or SUV that I do not agree with is the yuppie "but the Johnson's have one!" craze. They are the "in" thing, and that is why they're selling. That is also why people need to quit buying.
'91 525i

People do have their reasons, but most of them are rather poor. I will agree, trucks are cheap, they are generally quite reliable (mainly because they're as technologically advanced as my '72 Camaro), and they haul more than most cars could ever hope to. But what exactly is the image people think driving a truck gives them? Did trucks replace sports cars as the official penis cars of the 21st century?

Anyway, just say no to trucks, and thanks for reading MY ramblings.

Joe Ording
'89 535iM - can't haul as many groceries, but it hauls 'em faster. ;)

>>"I'd have to say you're rather irrational." Whatever. "I respect the time and effort that you and others put into modifying trucks." You say this, and yet you flat out call me "irrational" for modifying my SUV. Obviously no respect there. You're still putting me and other truck owners down for the simple fact that we drive trucks. I'm not telling you to drive a truck or to even like trucks. Just respect other people. Is it no consolation that I am also an E34 owner? Even though I've only had the car for about 2 months, I plan to always have a BMW parked in my driveway no matter what else is there. Or does that not matter either? Just because I live in Texas and drive a GMC truck does not mean that I'm an uneducated, filthy redneck with Skoal spit marks down the side of my door and a gun rack in my back window. "...they're as technologically advanced as my '72 Camaro." A 2001 model truck is about as technoligically advanced as a 2001 model truck. Sure, they aren't as advanced as a 2001 BMW, but that's because they don't need to be. Trucks do excellent jobs of being trucks. BMWs do excellent jobs of being sport-luxury cars. They shouldn't even be compared. I don't compare the way my truck and BMW drive to one another. It wouldn't be fair. I like the way each one drives for what it is. "But what exactly is the image people think driving a truck gives them?" Aside from my friends who have customized their trucks, most of the people I know who drive trucks don't own them for any sort of image. They have their trucks because that is the vehicle that they feel best suits their purpose and needs. I personally own a truck because I like trucks and I enjoy making it MY truck. The truck also suits my purpose and needs, and, as I said before, it is cheap and easy to maintain and work on. After reading this forum and all over the net as a BMW owner, I even feel safer now in the BMW than I do in my truck, but that's not going to make me give it up. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone could have a nice European sedan parked in their driveway? It would be nice, but not everyone can afford the luxury of owning one. Give people credit. That guy in the old Ford pickup next to you at the red light might be giving your E34 and approving smile because he loves the cars and would like to own one, but just can't afford to. He might even have one at home in his garage. At least his nose isn't stuck up in the air. I've gotten the thumbs up from several Bimmer owners in the past while driving my truck and I have given several back. Give people a little credit. You might be surprised.

'91 525i

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