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Mercedes had swingaxles,Porsche had swingaxles and (archive)

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Posted by Bill R. on December 16, 2000 at 18:26:04:

In Reply to: Unsafe at any speed...(long and not e34) posted by Andrew Fischer on December 16, 2000 at 15:09:44:

many others. The corvair was completely vindicated by the nhtsa in 1972 and Nader was proven completely wrong, the circumstances under which they got a corvair to roll would make your 5 series roll as well. The corvair ceased production in 1969, 4 years after Naders book supposedly killed them. What really killed the corvair was muscle cars and cheap gas again.

Cars with 'swing' axles will do that with a light load.
VW bugs and the Corvair (both RWD) were made Ralph Nader famous with that terrible design.
Raising a Bug (for larger tires) will make that even worse.

This is very dangerous -- axle can fold under a car in a turn causing the car to flip over.

I find it hard to belive that any modern car would repeat such a terrible design error, but it looks like someone has.

(in response to other post)
A few early RWD Fiats had swing axles (the 850 for example) but most were either a live axle (124 Spyder) or did it with a double joint so that the wheel stays |----| or /----\ (X 1/9 for example)

BTW anyone who tells you that you can't adjust camber on an X1/9 is wrong -- just slot the struts.

As an aside, I've seen some FWD cars and econoboxes with rear wheels like this: \----/ (not that extreme, of course). Does anyone have an idea as to why? I really don't see this as a way to prolong tire life, but I may be wrong.
Sean H
'92 535i

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