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Micah O' is correct it is documented in C&D issue (archive)

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Posted by Johnny on July 30, 2001 at 15:33:37:

In Reply to: Kim is wrong in the assesment of the case- posted by MicahO on July 30, 2001 at 14:04:16:

editorial section from about 6 months ago. I believe it was Patrick Bedard who authored it.

If I can find it, I'll get the article and scan for review by all.


Keith is right--

Mobil had pressed the Consumer Product people in the US to prevent Castrol from marketing Syntec as a "Synthetic" oil based on the facts that 1) Syntec is not a fully synthetic oil, and 2) marketing a non-fully synthetic oil as "Synthetic" would draw from the market value of fully synthetic oils such as Mobil-1. The real issue for Mobil is that it is far cheaper to produce a semi-synthetic than the Mobil-1 fully synthetic oil, and if people see 2 "Synthetic" oils and one is much cheaper, what are they gonna buy?

They lost - It was determined that oils that were synthetically derived, even from non-synthetic base molecules, could be marketed as synthetic oil. Bummer for Mobil. Booty for Castrol.

--Micah O'C
'92 525iT, Mobil-1 synthetic fluids, stem to stern

Not a user of Mobil 1 (except in the lawn tractor - no filter, extreme usage); but this post came up from a respected member of another BMW forum.

Kim from Down Under writes:
<< Now, on to Mobil 1. Did you know that this oil is NOT made from a true synthetic base stock?? It is actually dino oil in disguise!! Which is one of the reasons why Mobil was involved in a court case in the not-too-distant past in which it was LEGALLY determined that they are allowed to market a number of their products as "sythetic" - because they have undergone an elaborate transformation. However, the truth is that the base material is still crude oil.
From my limited understanding of chemistry I believe what they do is turn the base stock into a gas then turn it back into a liquid - ask a chemist how, not me. The point is, a duck is still a duck even after its been roasted. >>

I know that Amsoil and Royal Purple are 100% synthetic, now wondering about Mobil 1. BTW, Mobil 1 and the BMW are not the same thing. The BMW juice has a wider viscosity range than Mobil 1. Further I've heard that the BMW juice is a Castrol product and costs upwards of $40/quart. Can anyone confirm this?

95 540i
95 ///Miata

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