Read my post again - MY car was/is tops - I would not have paid $14k but the dealer knew I had a thing for bimmers - I buy all his decent ones and run them through the auction. I am not joking or provoking - I am speaking from experience - DONT GET RIPPED! - I lost alot of money when I started because I thought like you - the truth is people lie - "M cars" are just that "CARS"! I love them but they arent made of gold -- finding someone to pay a mint price for one is like hitting the lottery - it rarely happens