I'm still laughing at bobb's message! :-) I couldn't agree more on the "mushy, luxurious" part of his message. I test drove those cars and bought a BMW because of the tight control I felt when I drove it. BTW - We have the RX300 (for the lake), Audi TT (for racing)and the BMW (for driving everyday)...each servers a different purpose and all are fun in different ways! He who dies with the most toys wins! :-)