ASP generates HTML and pushes it to the browser. Actually, ASP uses VBScript and ISAPI. You are abstracted away from any "real" programming, don't think you're doing something technical there kid. : I don't think you are a real programmer. If you were, you would know that ASP uses VBS and C+. So essentially we are both programming the same thing but with different outcomes. That is of course if you even know how to program.