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In Reply to: Must agree to disagree. (more) posted by Bob ///M3 on August 06, 2000 at 20:07:51:
There could be dozens of reasons for the delay, including stuff that is beyond the control of BMW. For instance, a vendor that is making a part for the new M3 is having problems with THEIR manufacturing. Like maybe Alpine is having problems with the radio (wouldn't be this, cuz the radio would be the same as the rest of the E46's but just an example of a vendor), or let's say that Eibach is making the springs for the M3...maybe they are having a glitch in their production. My point is that it might not even be their (BMW's) fault.
Even if it is BMW's fault, I agree with Bruce about having the car totally sorted out. Testing is probably done up until soon before production will begin. Maybe they found something in the late stages of testing, or maybe they found something during testing of future models (i.e. 2002 M3's) that applies to the 2001 models.
With regard to the nature of the delay. I was speaking with a sales rep from VOB BMW in Maryland, and he mentioned the delay. For kicks I asked if he knew what the cause was. He said it was an engine issue. He didn't know what specifically, all he knew was "engine". Take that for what it's worth, which might be nothing, but I thought I'd share anyways.
-JT///M3
And for me to say it was "uncalled for" is accurate because I know what BMW was saying many months ago about the scheduled time period for the car to become available. Therefore, anything other than that time (or before) is uncalled for in my opinion.
When BMW made the announcement for the new M3 and gave a time period when it would be available. They obviously felt they needed a certain amount of time to engineer, machine tool-up and test the new model. It's not like they are new to doing this...they missed it! No excuse, and uncalled for.
I agree with you that I would rather have the new M3 that is "right" from the outset...who wouldn't? My beef is the fact they missed their schedule. If they had any idea this might happen they should have never mentioned the time period they did. It only puts doubt in the minds of the buying public.
I thought there was an official list of colors for the new M3. Apparently with what you say about there not being an official list I'll hope for better color choices. I'm assuming you know for a fact the colors that have been discussed here is false information and a premature quess on behalf of many. I'll accept that.
I appreciate your thoughts amd input, I still believe BMW has a problem of sorts with the new M3. Hopefully they will be able to work it out. We shall know for sure depending on what BMW offers in the '02/'03 model M3. Any predictions now what major changes (or offerings) there will be for the 2nd and 3rd year E46 M3s?
Bob ///M3
I'm losing confidence in BMW's decisions on many things pertaining to the new M3; keeping with the 3.2L I6 engine, uncalled for (and unknown) manufacturing delays, these color choices, etc.
"uncalled for manufacturing delays"? How do YOU know what is uncalled for? Do YOU want to buy a car that hasn't been fully sorted out just to get it on the market? Or do you want a car that is as problem free as they can get? I'll take the latter thank you very much.
As far as the color choices go, there has be NOTHING official as far as color choices go. It's anybody's guess as to what the final color choices will be. Wait for a final announcement on the car and the dealers get ordering guides.
On a whole different issue, I've heard Audi is definitely going to put a V8 for their A4. I don't know what this means but I'm afraid Audi (and other car makers) are really "going after" BMW.
Almost all articles you read where cars are in the 3 series or 5 series price range and type see BMW as the gold standard and we are not even talking about the M3 and M5. Not something for BMW to rest its laurels on, but the did bump the bar up with the E46. Competition is good.
It seems like other car makers are able and willing to design and engineer new models or performance related options very quickly whereas BMW muddles along hoping when the sun comes up the next day their competition will be gone! BMW doesn't seem to be able to react to what the buying public wants and what their competition is willing to offer. I'm afraid they have lost their focus, edge, desire and possibly the means to keep up.
I highly disagree. However, without Rover BMW can focus better on its core competencies.
Could BMW's Motorsport tradition be history? I hope not but it's obvious they have their problems.
Whatever.
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