totally agree, only acura, hondas love to Tune up. (archive)

for around 40K (2003) and Jaguar (they have a long history of making world class sports cars)has a 300+ hp Xseries with awd our BMWs will seem dated...even the e46M3s. Look at the (goofy looking) Subaru that just came out...from what I have been reading...you can get WELL over 300hp out of them for less than $1K ( a match for a M3 and AWD!)...Mitsubishi is talking about selling the Lancer here as well...another 300+ hp rally car. BMW is cashing in on the new M3s because they know demand will go down fast as competition is the segment increases. Analogies with e36M3s (great resell) wont hold water in the near future for the E46ers...the E36M3 never had this kind of very viable competition.....when you start thinking about used P-cars as other alternatives the new M3 starts to seem at tad pricy and maybe too little too late...I havent removed my name from the wait but probably will.....

Well, here are some stats on the V-8 M3, almost only for track though.

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Yeah, like Dinan, Schnitzer...oh, wait... S4_man 23:36 3/25/2001 (12)
- What about the warranty stories that we hear. RO 330i 23:40 3/25/2001 (11)
  - Dinan's stuff voids BMW warranty; he *sells* his S4_man 23:43 3/25/2001 (10)
    - This is incorrect....(more) Preston 23:54 3/25/2001 (7)
      - BMW dealer told me specifically that... S4_man 23:56 3/25/2001 (6)
        
        SF BMW is also a major Dinan dealer Randy G 00:10 3/26/2001 (1)
        
        Right. Dinan has agreements with certain dealers, S4_man 00:16 3/26/2001 (0)
        
        You are right and wrong... Preston 00:00 3/26/2001 (3)
        
        Re: You are right and wrong... S4_man 00:06 3/26/2001 (2)
        
        Argument is getting circular... Preston 00:11 3/26/2001 (1)
        
        Well, BMW policy is one thing, dealer policy... S4_man 00:14 3/26/2001 (0)
    - Oh,I didnt know that. I gotta test drive an S4 &M3 RO 330i 23:45 3/25/2001 (1)
      - I definitely want to test drive an E46 M3. S4_man 23:49 3/25/2001 (0)
Why mess up something that took $$$ 2 develop? RO 330i 23:31 3/25/2001 (15)
- Hey Didnt BMW use turbos in the past...a good.. BillE 23:37 3/25/2001 (14)
  - Watch out when Dinan gets a hold of an M3 RO 330i 23:41 3/25/2001 (13)
    - Oh, so modding M3's is cool, modding S4's isn't. S4_man 23:45 3/25/2001 (0)
    - Then you will have a $70K 3er, no thanks! nt BillE 23:44 3/25/2001 (11)
      - No wait how about an abused S4 cargo shuttle instead!..nt-cb 23:59 3/25/2001 (9)
        
        S4 beat E36 M3 in *every* comparison test. S4_man 00:01 3/26/2001 (8)
        
        True but... Preston 00:07 3/26/2001 (2)
        
        Better rubber helps bigtime... S4_man 00:11 3/26/2001 (1)
        
        Both were great cars when both were MSRP BillE 00:13 3/26/2001 (0)
        
        WHO CARES ALREADY!! Jason 00:07 3/26/2001 (0)
        
        That proves nothing, it's still a cargo shuttle! chipped or not. c 00:05 3/26/2001 (3)
        
        Proves you're an ignorant badge whore. S4_man 00:07 3/26/2001 (2)
        
        Dude don't take it so personally..when I want a shuttle I'll get an S4 okay? nt 00:10 3/26/2001 (1)
        
        And when I want to be a badge whore, I'll get... S4_man 00:17 3/26/2001 (0)
      - Heck, I will say what needs to be said.... BillE 23:57 3/25/2001 (0)

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