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BMW E46 M3 Forum Archive, 1999 week 49
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US m3 lower output - Wondering....... 22:05 12/12/99 (1)
- I don't care about a 10hp difference, but - don't let it be 81hp! (e) 00:33 12/13/99 (0)
M3(E46) vs. M5(E39) - redtr 12:49 12/12/99 (0)
M5 = 4.7 0-60. M3 = similar lbs per hp. - Scot 10:06 12/12/99 (0)
FOR SALE: BMW Six Disk CD Changer!!!! - John 09:35 12/12/99 (0)
MSRP 2001m3 - Larry 17:33 12/11/99 (0)
The New M3 screams 4.5 0-60 - Torch 14:42 12/11/99 (35)
- 0-60 in 4.5!! No way - Bryan Doviack 18:41 12/11/99 (3)
  - Re: 0-60 in 4.5!! No way - Torch 11:02 12/12/99 (2)
    - Re: 0-60 in 4.5!! No way - DC 11:30 12/12/99 (1)
      - Re: 0-60 in 4.5!! No way - diablo 05:15 1/02/2000 (0)
- Re: The New M3 screams 4.5 0-60 - dont waste your money.. buy an S4 16:06 12/11/99 (21)
  - Re: The New M3 screams 4.5 0-60 - Jason L2 07:36 12/13/99 (0)
  - Re: The New M3 screams 4.5 0-60 - Scot 08:52 12/12/99 (1)
    - I don't trust TAP personally... - NB 10:27 12/12/99 (0)
  - Re: The New M3 screams 4.5 0-60 - Torch 17:06 12/11/99 (17)
    - You'll piss thru an xtra 10K in insurance - Remember that the home boys like BMW's 18:36 12/22/99 (0)
    - Porsche class? I doubt it...(more) - DC 17:37 12/11/99 (15)
      - Re: Porsche class? I doubt it...(more) - Torch 10:54 12/12/99 (5)
        
        Re: Porsche class? I doubt it...(more) - Paul E 12:12 12/13/99 (3)
        
        Counterpoint on SC E36 vs E46 - ChasM3 14:21 12/13/99 (2)
        
        Re: Counterpoint on your counterpoint - Paul E 18:12 12/13/99 (1)
        
        How do you know this? - KJK 19:09 12/14/99 (0)
        
        Understood...(more) - DC 11:28 12/12/99 (0)
      - At a not-quite-so-screaming 5.1 seconds, I wonder - how much people will pay for an M3 (eom) 22:27 12/11/99 (8)
        
        No idea, it's still faster than the E36 M3 (more) - DC 22:33 12/11/99 (7)
        
        Re: No idea, it's still faster than the E36 M3 (mo - bim-man 18:46 12/12/99 (6)
        
        Owner of '99 328i & 2K S4 - honest opinion - Scott Tominovich 10:00 12/14/99 (5)
        
        Re: Owner of '99 328i & 2K S4 - honest opinion - Ray Koch 11:52 12/15/99 (0)
        
        Snow is one thing, but is M3 crappy in the RAIN, t - oo? - Billy 01:00 12/15/99 (0)
        
        Re: Owner of '99 328i & 2K S4 - honest opinion - KJK 19:27 12/14/99 (0)
        
        Actually, I agree with you...(more) - DC 14:31 12/14/99 (1)
        
        Re: Actually, I agree with you...(more) - Scott Tominovich 17:24 12/16/99 (0)
- Chat With My Local German Dealer.(long) - Richard Smith 15:28 12/11/99 (1)
  - m3 accleration (long) - marc b 16:17 12/11/99 (0)
- Is that "between 48 and 52K" base MSRP or out the - door? (e) - ignorant 15:23 12/11/99 (6)
  - Re: Is that "between 48 and 52K" base MSRP or out - Torch 17:00 12/11/99 (4)
    - Thoughts on MSRP - ignorant 21:08 12/11/99 (3)
      - Re: Thoughts on MSRP - Dave 21:47 12/14/99 (0)
      - Re: Thoughts on MSRP - Paul E 12:21 12/13/99 (1)
        
        You may well be right; but if so, BMW is making a - mistake (nt) - ignorant 00:02 12/14/99 (0)
  - B . A . S . E . - Baseboy 16:00 12/11/99 (0)
E46 M3 modifications - Birdman 22:44 12/10/99 (2)
- THE M3 IS NOT OUT YET, STOP JINXING IT! - Mr Sam 02:12 12/11/99 (1)
  - Can't we pretend? (NT) - Birdman 02:51 12/11/99 (0)
NAIAS - slm 22:35 12/10/99 (0)
'99 M3 w/ Dinan chip and suspension vs 2001 M3? - Larry 21:19 12/10/99 (2)
- Re: '99 M3 w/ Dinan chip and suspension vs 2001 M3 - Paul E 13:15 12/13/99 (0)
- Will be no comparison - ChasM3 23:03 12/10/99 (0)
Voss BMW Salespeople are ASSHOLES!! (more) - mcarter 17:45 12/10/99 (1)
- Phone call and apology from salesmanager (more) - mcarter 10:57 12/11/99 (0)
Do you think... - lionsfan54 17:41 12/10/99 (3)
- Absolutely - TBP 19:15 12/10/99 (2)
  - Re: Absolutely - lionsfan54 07:46 12/11/99 (1)
    - Re: Absolutely (long) - AvusBlue 11:26 12/11/99 (0)
MD/VA/DC....Autothority S4-Crofton Raceway (more) - Mable 15:52 12/10/99 (0)
Been an interesting week! - Richard Fogg 15:51 12/10/99 (6)
- Your must have a LOT of money to waste with that c - ar-history of yours (nt) - ignorant 20:57 12/10/99 (4)
  - or maybe he's just an insecure dumazz - lol 16:02 12/11/99 (3)
    - My, how mature, how considerate! How jealous? - Richard Fogg 17:04 12/11/99 (2)
      - I apologize. I'm just envious that you can change - cars so easily - ignorant 21:51 12/11/99 (1)
        
        Thanks for the follow up. I appreciate it. - Richard Fogg 16:44 12/12/99 (0)
- Re: Been an interesting week! - ChasM3 16:02 12/10/99 (0)
Any1 else on a list ?'ed re color(++)) - rca 12:46 12/10/99 (11)
- Make mine paisley! - :-) 21:03 12/10/99 (0)
- Candy-Apple Red with Gold trim!!! - cjg 20:57 12/10/99 (3)
  - Gold Trim?..... - JG 23:29 12/10/99 (2)
    - I remember a Nissan 280ZX that had this color... - cjg 13:01 12/11/99 (1)
      - I did also.... - JG 21:27 12/12/99 (0)
- Steel gray metalic, a beautiful color: (see Z3)eom - Bennett 17:09 12/10/99 (0)
- Didn't get asked but... - ChasM3 15:42 12/10/99 (0)
- Re: Any1 else on a list ?'ed re color(++)) - marc b 13:07 12/10/99 (3)
  - Re: Any1 else on a list ?'ed re color(++)) - Torch 15:59 12/10/99 (0)
  - Re: Any1 else on a list ?'ed re color(++)) - Faris 13:21 12/10/99 (1)
    - Re: Any1 else on a list ?'ed re color(++)) - Ray Koch 15:13 12/10/99 (0)
SPECS OUT!! 3.2L, 304hp, 0-60:5.3sec! - M3Man 12:21 12/10/99 (7)
- You suckered em :-) - Unsuckered 18:11 12/10/99 (0)
- Why bother posting if you can't site a source? eom - Bennett 17:10 12/10/99 (0)
- Re: SPECS OUT!! 3.2L, 304hp, 0-60:5.3sec! - Torch 15:10 12/10/99 (2)
  - I doubt it that's fast - Bryan Doviack 22:51 12/10/99 (1)
    - I agree with you...(more) - DC 11:57 12/11/99 (0)
- I don't think so... - Nice Try 13:02 12/10/99 (0)
- Re: I bet the hp & 0-60 is understated though (++) - rca 12:37 12/10/99 (0)
E46 M3 to be 3.2L?!!! - ///M 12:14 12/10/99 (0)
List, what list? - who cares what # you are on the list 10:25 12/10/99 (3)
- Re: List, what list? - cjg 21:23 12/10/99 (0)
- Explanation of the "list" (long) - jlr 11:00 12/10/99 (0)
- If there's no list...start it !!! You'll be #1... - Get goin' !!! (eom) Beefer 10:49 12/10/99 (0)
What's the most you'd pay for a base M3 (assume 3. - 2l, 340 hp, 0-60 in 4.8)? - ignorant 01:19 12/10/99 (14)
- "Base M3." Now that's the.... - Siper2 16:58 12/14/99 (0)
- Up to $47k base and only if it's no more than MSRP - Henry 15:51 12/10/99 (0)
- 45K plus tax for base nt - ChasM3 15:38 12/10/99 (0)
- 43k...and we had better get a bmwcca discount!!! - bsc 14:40 12/10/99 (0)
- $50K out the door is the limit! - EOM 13:48 12/10/99 (0)
- $42k..considering the competition !!!!! - AC 11:21 12/10/99 (0)
- 50k (nt) - FC 07:32 12/10/99 (0)
- Re: What's the most you'd pay for a base M3 (assum - Jim 02:36 12/10/99 (1)
  - Start Looking Then! (eom) - Paul E 10:53 12/10/99 (0)
- In my country it will be $US 100,000 minimum - robbo 01:55 12/10/99 (2)
  - I'm from Australia, old E36M3 US90,000, M5 130000 - robbo 17:42 12/10/99 (0)
  - 100K? robbo, are you from Taiwan? (nt)) - FC 07:43 12/10/99 (0)
- 45K (plus tax, tags) would be my limit. - ignorant 01:23 12/10/99 (0)
- Re: What's the most you'd pay for a base M3 (assum - ignorant 01:21 12/10/99 (0)
mercedes or audi?? - T.Anderson 23:50 12/09/99 (10)
- E-mail me offline-I own S4, Dad CLK430, Pal C43(e) - Scott W 19:18 12/15/99 (0)
- Re: mercedes or audi?? - ///M 12:12 12/10/99 (1)
  - Heh, I guess F360 Modenas are built for wimps too. - Raoul 18:25 12/10/99 (0)
- Neither, wait for the M3... - jlr 11:05 12/10/99 (1)
  - Wrong! - Dean 16:58 12/11/99 (0)
- Well, here is what i think.... - JG 00:37 12/10/99 (1)
  - Stay away from the Audi - Bob 17:03 12/11/99 (0)
- Just fuckoff, we dont give a shit!!! - ///M Power 00:15 12/10/99 (2)
  - Y'know Jergens makes a nice lotion now specificall - y for the loosening of sphincters(e) 10:55 12/10/99 (0)
  - Hmmm...that was nice - Animboy 00:25 12/10/99 (0)
United States to get 1843 M3's for year 00/01 I do - not know how....Evan...more 21:53 12/09/99 (1)
- OBD3? - holy fuck 23:07 12/09/99 (0)
BMW of Fairfax, VA - marc 12:15 12/09/99 (7)
- Re: BMW of Fairfax, VA - hisham 14:50 12/10/99 (0)
- Re: BMW of Fairfax, VA - SLM 20:40 12/09/99 (2)
  - what # were you? who was your salesperson? - marc 21:08 12/09/99 (1)
    - Re: what # were you? who was your salesperson? - SLM 02:53 12/10/99 (0)
- #1 on Richmond, VA (eom) - Beefer 14:06 12/09/99 (2)
  - Re: #1 on Richmond, VA (eom) - marc b 19:17 12/09/99 (1)
    - nevermind (eom) - marc 20:37 12/09/99 (0)
I'm #7 on Boston wait list (+) - rca 10:56 12/09/99 (14)
- #1 on Jupiter (but the destination charges are mur - der!) 12:57 12/12/99 (0)
- According to what I hve heard, if you are #7, that - equals a good 3 year wait.. 20:39 12/09/99 (1)
  - dealer expects 100 m3's in 1 year allotment (eom) - rca 20:57 12/09/99 (0)
- #1 on Marin County list (eom) - Animboy 12:49 12/09/99 (7)
  - For Animeboy - M3 13:10 12/09/99 (6)
    - Sonnen of Marin & Hendricka (long) - Animboy 17:16 12/09/99 (5)
      - I got MSRP in writing; see my post above for(more) - rca 20:10 12/09/99 (0)
      - Thanx Animboy - M3 17:44 12/09/99 (3)
        
        Yup, Thats the way it seems-verifying today (eom) - Animboy 18:46 12/09/99 (2)
        
        So I can just give her a call and place my order?? - EOM 23:15 12/09/99 (1)
        
        Re: So I can just give her a call and place my ord - Animboy 00:30 12/10/99 (0)
- #4 on Detroit wait list (eom) - Bcar 12:38 12/09/99 (2)
  - Re: #4 on Detroit wait list (eom) - m3buyer 13:43 12/09/99 (1)
    - Re: #4 on Detroit wait list (eom) - Bcar 14:48 12/10/99 (0)
M3 Dealer Allotment - Animboy 02:25 12/09/99 (21)
- I heard it will be MORE scarce than the M5 from - someone who knows... 20:41 12/09/99 (0)
- Re: M3 Dealer Allotment - Ray Koch 10:34 12/09/99 (4)
  - Re: M3 Dealer Allotment - james 19:14 12/10/99 (0)
  - Re: M3 Dealer Allotment - ChasM3 21:59 12/09/99 (1)
    - Re: M3 Dealer Allotment - Ray Koch 09:35 12/10/99 (0)
  - M3 Dealer Allotment - Bcar 12:37 12/09/99 (0)
- E36 M3 wasn't that scarce, why is E46 that way(NT) - lionsfan54 08:04 12/09/99 (1)
  - Probably won't be that scarce. My local dealer is - ignorant 22:02 12/10/99 (0)
- Re: M3 Dealer Allotment - Torch 06:33 12/09/99 (12)
  - what stops BMW from just increasing MSRP? - HarvardMBA 14:32 12/09/99 (8)
    - You are funny - Gordon 21:06 12/09/99 (4)
      - One more thing... - HarvardMBA 23:01 12/09/99 (2)
        
        Yeah, but I don't sign my name... - lionsfan54 10:20 12/10/99 (0)
        
        Yeah, but I don't sign my name... - lionsfan54 10:20 12/10/99 (0)
      - Geez! I was just being hypothetical! - HarvardMBA 22:51 12/09/99 (0)
    - Re: what stops BMW from just increasing MSRP? - Animboy 17:23 12/09/99 (2)
      - Same reason why IPOs are not priced (more) - Ran 21:05 12/09/99 (1)
        
        Cool. That makes sense. Thanks (eom) - HarvardMBA 22:53 12/09/99 (0)
  - Then why does the M5 cost $100,000? - M5=big bucks! 11:22 12/09/99 (1)
    - Re: Then why does the M5 cost $100,000? - Bruce 12:07 12/09/99 (0)
  - It already is happening with the M5 - lionsfan54 08:01 12/09/99 (0)
M3 Screen Savers! - Kamy 16:23 12/08/99 (2)
- I Made a slide show of all current pics of E46more - Bcar 09:59 12/09/99 (0)
- Try.... - Bennett 23:08 12/08/99 (0)
New M3 � a �junior� M5? (long) - Pilot Mike 14:47 12/08/99 (4)
- Re: New M3 � a �junior� M5? (long) - Owen 01:24 12/09/99 (0)
- I have a feeling.... - JG 22:18 12/08/99 (1)
  - Reminds me of my '88 TBird Turbo - Faris 17:02 12/09/99 (0)
- Carbon fiber trim (nt) - ChasM3 16:31 12/08/99 (0)
Bruce: Any comments why M3 will be 3.2, not 3.4? - James 13:37 12/08/99 (7)
- The 95 M3 is 3.0L. then BMW enlarged it to 3.2L - swei 15:37 12/08/99 (0)
- Re: Bruce: Any comments why M3 will be 3.2, not 3. - Bruce 14:34 12/08/99 (5)
  - Re: Bruce: Any comments why M3 will be 3.2, not 3. - Ray Koch 11:07 12/09/99 (0)
  - Re: Bruce: Any comments why M3 will be 3.2, not 3. - James 14:47 12/08/99 (3)
    - Re: Bruce: Any comments why M3 will be 3.2, not 3. - Bruce 15:50 12/08/99 (2)
      - Shouldn't have to add chip, exhaust etc...(NT) - lionsfan54 17:23 12/08/99 (1)
        
        BMW is conservative in engine tuning (eom) - Bruce 18:34 12/08/99 (0)
Help needed-buying winter tires for 98 M3 today - Zoomer 12:35 12/08/99 (1)
- Re: Help needed-buying winter tires for 98 M3 toda - Jason L2 13:03 12/08/99 (0)
BMW E46 M3, deposit on one in NJ #2 on the list - trevf@mindspring.com 12:28 12/08/99 (1)
- Mercedez that bad for you? (a little long) - jlr 12:50 12/08/99 (0)
PAYING MRSP - JAY 03:42 12/08/99 (1)
- There will be no discount for Euro delivery of M3 - (same as for E39 M5) (eom) 07:40 12/08/99 (0)
Why the secrets? - Animboy 03:08 12/08/99 (3)
- Re: Why the secrets? - M3wannabe 07:22 12/08/99 (0)
- Can't say since reason for secrecy also secret (e) - rca 07:13 12/08/99 (1)
  - Secretly speaking the secrecy is to keep it secret - It's a Secret :-) 18:24 12/08/99 (0)
Latest BMW production Schedule - james 15:21 12/07/99 (17)
- What the F*uck..This says that the M3 will have a - 3.2l not 3.4l.Evan... 20:38 12/07/99 (3)
  - maybe to make sure m3 is slower than m5 (e) - rca 07:54 12/08/99 (0)
  - Re: What the F*uck..This says that the M3 will hav - owen 02:52 12/08/99 (1)
    - Re: What the F*uck..This says that the M3 will hav - james 12:58 12/08/99 (0)
- Re: Latest BMW production Schedule - Calvin Cheng 19:10 12/07/99 (3)
  - Re: Latest BMW production Schedule - Piss off 08:45 12/08/99 (2)
    - Re: Latest BMW production Schedule - KURTB 14:49 12/08/99 (0)
    - A whole lot more than a facelift - ChasM3 13:43 12/08/99 (0)
- What's your source? - Animboy 15:25 12/07/99 (8)
  - Re: What's your source? - Bruce 16:36 12/07/99 (7)
    - Re: What's your source? - james 12:54 12/08/99 (0)
    - Re: What's your source? - Wally 17:53 12/07/99 (1)
      - SOP = Start of production - Bennett 18:44 12/07/99 (0)
    - e-mail list - Animboy 17:21 12/07/99 (3)
      - Re: e-mail list - Bruce 19:42 12/07/99 (0)
      - Random stuff - Mike G 18:05 12/07/99 (1)
        
        Re: Random stuff - Animboy 20:01 12/07/99 (0)
Just sharing. - Kamy 13:06 12/07/99 (0)
the new M3... - Peter Ku 08:37 12/07/99 (14)
- Re: the new M3... - Bruce 09:03 12/07/99 (13)
  - Octane rating same, but sulphur, etc. different... - Lorenz 22:29 12/07/99 (1)
    - Re: Octane rating same, but sulphur, etc. differen - Bruce 23:30 12/07/99 (0)
  - Different octane rating - Jesse 10:32 12/07/99 (0)
  - Re: the new M3... - jlr 10:02 12/07/99 (9)
    - also... - Bruce 11:02 12/07/99 (4)
      - Emission requirments in the US? - Peter Ku 12:22 12/07/99 (0)
      - Let me clarify - jlr 11:43 12/07/99 (2)
        
        my whole point is... - Bruce 11:49 12/07/99 (1)
        
        Re: my whole point is... - jlr 11:57 12/07/99 (0)
    - as i understand it.... - Bruce 10:59 12/07/99 (3)
      - M3 Uses 98 RON Super Unleaded in Europe - Gordon 15:17 12/07/99 (1)
        
        RON is typically 10 higher than MON in U.S. (more) - ignorant 20:29 12/07/99 (0)
      - He's right - lionsfan54 11:57 12/07/99 (0)
Boston wait list info (+) - rca 21:29 12/06/99 (3)
- Re: Boston wait list info (+) - also heard coming in May 23:33 12/06/99 (2)
  - Tell Ken Koehler I want one too! A red one :) - DrBimmer in RI 20:47 12/09/99 (0)
  - Re: Boston wait list info (+) - Larry Van 12:47 12/07/99 (0)
E46 Stereo's etc... - Bennett 21:14 12/06/99 (1)
- Re: E46 Stereo's etc... - CJG 18:51 12/07/99 (0)
Wheel Repair By Rennsport - Robert 17:39 12/06/99 (1)
- Re: Wheel Repair By Rennsport - marc 22:55 12/06/99 (0)
Wheel Repair By Rennsport - Gdog G E. Strickland 17:38 12/06/99 (0)
Battle is on, between new M3 and C5 - swei 15:28 12/06/99 (14)
- Apples and Oranges.... - JMS 19:01 12/06/99 (8)
  - Comments... - JT///M3 09:24 12/07/99 (0)
  - Apples and Oranges, not really - swei 23:58 12/06/99 (5)
    - Most serious competitor - Not really! 20:03 12/07/99 (0)
    - Most serious competitor - Not really! 20:03 12/07/99 (0)
    - I don't believe it, 2 seater v.s. 4 seater (eom) - DC 12:31 12/07/99 (2)
      - 6 seats SUV is apple, 4 seats SUV is orange?! - swei 18:55 12/07/99 (1)
        
        Why is that any less valid than any other method? - (more) DC 19:13 12/07/99 (0)
  - Well said, I totally agree.(eom) - Robby 21:01 12/06/99 (0)
- The only thing good about the Vette is.... - JG 17:49 12/06/99 (4)
  - Re: The only thing good about the Vette is.... - johnW 22:27 12/06/99 (3)
    - C5 is 2nd on JD power's sports car survey - swei 19:02 12/07/99 (1)
      - Re: C5 is 2nd on JD power's sports car survey - johnW 12:48 12/09/99 (0)
    - Re: The only thing good about the Vette is.... - BMW reliability not that great either... 00:46 12/07/99 (0)
WHY DIDNT E36 M3 USE THE M5 OLD INLINE 6? - anthony 13:12 12/06/99 (2)
- Re: WHY DIDNT E36 M3 USE THE M5 OLD INLINE 6? - collyer 17:25 12/07/99 (0)
- Probably cost and emissions concerns (NT) - lionsfan54 17:21 12/06/99 (0)
introduction (m) - rca 07:23 12/06/99 (5)
- Re: introduction (m) - Bruce 12:25 12/06/99 (0)
- Re: introduction (m) - Jason L2 12:05 12/06/99 (0)
- Re: introduction (m) - KP 10:38 12/06/99 (2)
  - height (+) - rca 20:33 12/06/99 (1)
    - Re: height (+) - Bruce 21:16 12/06/99 (0)
M3-E46: USA vs. Europe - Aleksey 00:15 12/06/99 (1)
- Re: M3-E46: USA vs. Europe - Jason L2 07:38 12/06/99 (0)

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