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In Reply to: Oh boy...... posted by PHAT M3 on April 26, 2000 at 18:01:03:
Our euro shield is very much like our other shields, except that it is a little larger on the right side to add strength to the shield. see pic OT [Now about the BPG test being lawed?...nothing is wrong with their dyno, trust me.] Sean : Euro HFM is bigger, by nearly .5" in diameter. This allows for MORE airflow, and thus, you can add more fuel and get more power. : As for the best set-up....well, that is all opinion. According to an expert in the field (to remain annoymous), the BPG dyno test was flawed, and they know it. Now, on to my opinon. : I have the Jim C. intake with euro HFM on my 95 M3. I like it, it has great power and an awesome sound. I recently installed the stock intake to compare....WHAT A DIFFERENCE. Car feels like a goat pulling a cart without the euro hfm, chip, etc. : I would imagine that both are similar. HOWEVER, it is up to you whom to trust with your money. That is all I will say about that! : I have seen a ECIS product. It was a prototype and sent to me for evaluation. It was NOT the ECIS intake you are talking about, so I cannot directly compare the two. However, I would ASSUME that the materials used ionthe ECIS intake shield is the same as the one I tested. Maybe not. But here is my impression. : The ECIS protoype was thicker than the Jim C. and appeared on the surface, to transfer less heat. Although I doubt radiant heat would raise the temp in the "shielded area" much anywayz, so that is probably a moot point. : The Jim C. shield seemed to be a more flexible material, but could crack/rip it abused. but once it is in, it would be fine. The ECIS was thicker, and less bendable. It also appeard to have a metal core inbetween the layers. Good, bad, I dunno. : I think each shield it probably of equal overall results...that would be to keep out the hot air and fan wash. : The question comes down to this (for me). WHERE and WHO makes the software? I know that Jim was the FIRST to crack the Motronic Code and thus has the most experience with it. That is why I bought his kit/software. I have no idea where Sean (ECIS) gets his. I heard that Jim will not sell his software to ECIS. Maybe ECIS provides you with another chip. I don't know...ask! : Hopefully I helped out a bit. I have heard rave reviews from people with ECIS and Jim C kits. : I will tell you this diffinatively. IF you have a 95 M3 (read: 95!), definately get the EURO hfm kit. The power increase is awesome, and you will kill "chipped" 96+ M3's...I do! : Good luck, Tim
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">Picture 1 : The software for the our euro kit is provided by AA and works well...see dyno sheet.
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">Picture 2 : Like Tim said, this is a tremendous mod. I have taken my euro kit off and put on the regular ECIS kit with chip and the notice is still very noticable. If you go from completely stock to a euro setup, the power is awesome.
: : Whats the difference? I see the one that was tested by BPG was a non euro version. This would lead me to believe that the non euro is better???? So the best set up is a CAIw/shield, HFM from somewhere, and chip?
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