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Re: Detonated supercharger update (archive)

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Posted by Paul E on June 16, 2000 at 21:07:07:

In Reply to: Detonated supercharger update posted by PeterE on June 16, 2000 at 15:36:02:

: Well guys, I talked to Osh at RMS today, after he got the imploded blower from me. He says he has no opinion on what caused it because he hadn't seen a Vortech do this and sent it to Vortech for their examination. I asked him if the warranty flowed from RMS to me or from Vortech to me. He says it came from RMS. When I told him I was stilling pulling shrapnel from the impeller out of my motor (found two of the fan blades lodged in the throttle body, but can't find the third, yet), he seemed completely unconcerned. Stay tuned.

Peter, I'm really sorry you're having this trouble. I've heard that Osh can be 'difficult' when things get 'sticky', and I guess your proving it out, unfortunately. Which is one of the reasons I've decided NOT to go with his intercooler for my Dinan setup. Before Id ever go with a mixed system, I'd have to make sure all supplying parties were 'ok' with it, and I could trust them to follow up if things went wrong, and not just blame the other guy. You bought the system from RMS, so its up to RMS to handle your defect. Generally, what should happen is they should cover your loss, and they would get reimbursed from their supplier, which is Vortech. Just like if you have a warranty repair at BMW, the Dealer covers your loss, and BMW covers theirs'. For Osh to fully recognize and accept that his kit caused significant collateral damage to your engine, and to not take care of it for you is unconscionable. I certainly hope that readers on this list see this thread, and take heed. Any idea how much dollars this collateral damage is going to cost you in parts and labor?

Now, re those heavy duty injectors you still have installed, I would presume that you still have your RMS software to instruct those injectors. Now, I imagine your intake is drawing in as much outside air as before...And that your DME is instructing your injectors to put out fuel to match the air intake according to its RMS mappings. Which, since theres no blower at the moment, would probably be too much. I am guessing that the RMS software takes the reading from the HFM, and remaps it so that it puts out enough fuel to run with the intake charge from the Blower, but without the blower, it'll be rich...Does this sound like what's happening? So, depending on what you wind up doing with your blower, you may or may not want to revert back to NA type software and injectors....Good luck, and keep us informed.

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