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Re: M3 vs ITR vs R6 (archive)

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Posted by ttaM3 on June 19, 2000 at 12:31:07:

In Reply to: M3 vs ITR vs R6 posted by Zster on June 19, 2000 at 10:38:13:

: afterward i talked to the guy on the bike. he told me that he only downshifted to 5th and was a little slow reacting to me, which made sense since i got the early jump. i know that when you go 100+ mph the limiting factor stops being the weight/hp ration but it's the wind resistance/hp ratio that matters. i guess that's why when we were side by side, it took him longuer to pass me then when he was catching up to me. it was fun, he said he went all the way to 158mph and that was the fastest he had been on that bike :).

: I have to admit that when I first read your post I was thinking: is this guy kidding?! his M3 kept up w/ an R6! Bwahahaha!

But you made a good point about wind resistance. I got my motorcycle permit last year and have ridden an R6 on numerous occasions up to 125 mph. Shifting your weight or moving a limb at that speed causes quick lane changes or deceleration. I was almost blown off the bike at 120 when I lifted my head all of six inches, from behind the windscreen to just over it.

Nevertheless, the hp/weight ratio of the R6 (106 rwhp/~380 lbs + driver -- not sure on exact figures but that should give you a good idea) is much more impressive than that of the M3. Furthermore, the R6 must move less air at 100+ than an M3 b/c it has a much smaller front end. As far as drag goes, I have no idea which vehicle is more aerodynamic. In any case, even in 5th at 100+, a quick twist of the wrist brings sudden acceleration that would leave an M3 in the dust. As far as I can tell, and I'm no expert, the R6's powerband hits hard right at 10,000 rpm and goes all the way to 16,000. I think this guy was being very conservative. What's he doing cruising in sixth when racing you two?

I'll try the same experiment with my '95 M3 coupe vs. my friend's 2000 Yamaha R6.

: i just got my motorcycle permit, maybe it's time to really learn how to go fast :).

: Keep your eyes peeled for gravel/dirt and have a blast! Oh yea, and be careful -- motorists tend not to notice or respect motorcycles as they do larger vehicles.


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