get on the track and handle this. All this talk and BS'in isnt going to do SHIT. Also, I know of the Diego street racers. . and their ways. . . may I suggest a REAL race at a REAL track, down a REAL quarter mile? A civic with a 2.2 VTEC (H22) motor on street tires is still a 14 second car, I dont care who you are. A M3 pulls low 14's with a shitty driver. Needless to say, I could go on babbling statistics and power/weight ratios and all sorts of shit all day, but, the only fair trial is to send (or TOW) the civic to the track, and bring the M3 along as well, and go heads up for some friendly competition. Thats just my two cents on this little situation.