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Re: MXX's are WAAAAY superior to Yoko Int (way lon (archive)

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Posted by Doh on June 23, 2000 at 16:28:25:

In Reply to: Re: MXX's are WAAAAY superior to Yoko Int (way lon posted by Chet on June 23, 2000 at 12:06:41:

I don't know why people keep bitching about the pilots traction. I have BALD mxx3's and they still handle fine in the wet, and I've been through two winters with them, with the help of some sand in the trunk. I don't even have traction control on my 95 M3. Just use some common sense. YMMV :)

: Hmm, I think you're the first person who didn't think the MXX3 were truly awful in the wet. The new V tread designs from BFG, Mich & Yoko are infinitely better in the wet. On the track, MXX3s squeal and moan not only at the limit, but when the get same zip code as the parking lot around the ballpark of the limit, which is not that helpful. They are good tires - but not worth the huge premium to pay for MIchellin's annoying baby ads.

: : I have a '98 M3 which had the Michelins which I ran for 17,000 miles and about a year and a half on the track (about 20 track days). In my opinion, these are simply THE BEST street tires for the E36 M3 -- no exceptions. Excellent in the rain and quite good on the track, both in terms of wear and grip (nice stick, releases progessively with plenty of audible warning at the limit -- exactly what you need in an M3 when you overcook a corner). I had to beg, borrow and steal to get a new set after I ran through the originals, and now I won't run them on the track or at auto-x (I use stickies). I also have an '88 M3 "track dog" which originally had the Yoko Intermediates. Those tires cannot compete with the Michelins. OK for the street, lousy in the rain, and CRAP ON THE TRACK -- poor wear and poor grip. ONLY the Yoko A032R is better than the Michelins on the track (better in the rain, too, but not as long wearing on the street), and for the money, you can get a better track tire (like the Toyo Proxes RA-1) with decent streetability. Of course, your best bet is 2 sets of wheels/tires -- one for the street, one for track. JUST MY $.02, but based on personal experience and hard-earned $$$$$.

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