In Reply to: DINAN is overprice!!!!!!!!! posted by s on September 11, 2000 at 21:25:11:
Had I had the opportunity to ride in a car with a bilstein setup and been able to compare I might have changed my mind. However most people on this board still seem to agree that the Dinan setup is the best balanced system out. Even though it costs the most.
Actually, It's stage 1 plus camber plates. NO dinan sway bars because I'm buying the old Dinan sways off a fellow m3 owner. So I will wait till he removes them and I went with stage 1 plus camber plates (Or stage 3 minus sway bars)
The ride quality isn't greatly effected. It's tighter but not harsher. Think of it this way. If you hit a bump in the stock suspension the feeling is a BUMP with a slow recoil or bit of bounce. Now, the bump feels the same but the suspension goes back to original position faster. SO the effect is no Bouncing up and down after a bump. Just bump, return. Bump return. It's difficult to descibe but thats the best way I can describe it in words.
The car definantly enters turns sharper and faster. I noticed a bit of a slow turn in when I went to YOKO AVS sport tires wiht my stock suspension. It felt like I would turn the wheel and the car would respond .2 seconds later. NOw the response is immediat. The car holds turns faster or less tire chriping at the same speeds as a stock suspension.
I do like it alot but it's only been 3 days. I can't wait for the sways!
$1128 for stage 1 plus $199 for camber plates. I also opted for BMP aluminum rear shock mounts for $100. SO out the door with tax and labor was $2300. You would need to add another $480 for the sway bars that are included with stage 2 plus 2.5hrs labor. Out here that is $89 per hour So full stage 3 would be around $3100.
Is it worth it? Well, come on $3100 is a hell of a tag. It depends how easy $3100 is for you to come buy. I'll admit. I'm REALLY happy with the suspension so far and I'm sure I'll LOVE it after my next autocross. It's also the best upgrade I've performed on my car next to the short shifter which I still love. It really adds to the excitment of driving my car. But it hurt to write the check. If you spending your last saved penny then I would wait. If you got the money laying around and are wondering if it's worth it? I'd say yes.
not concerned with lowering, just want to know (from those who have it) whether they have any regrets (i.e. is it appreciably better than stock on the street? track?)
the main advantage i can see is the 1) adjustable sways 2) greater negative camber up front and 3) reduced tendency towards understeer b/c of the lower F/R spring rate ratio.
money aside, is this stuff worth it or should i stick with stock?