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Re: Dinan's latest bendover job (archive)

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Posted by Paul E on September 13, 2000 at 11:27:38:

In Reply to: Dinan's latest bendover job posted by PeterE on September 13, 2000 at 10:56:04:


Man did you guys see the latest Roundel with the blown/intercooled Dinan MZ-3? He's asking 37,000 over list for the damn thing. I have checked into a smiliar set-up using other tuners and here's what I came up with
Supercharger with aftercooler, and ECU upgrade $9,500
Coilover suspension from Bekkers $1,300
Lightweight flywheel from AA 900
Fikse 17" wheels from TMS w/ tires from Tirerack $3,000
Schrick intake manifold from Kormann w/Extrude Hone $1,700
Supersprint Exhaust cat-back from Bekkers $579
That comes to 17,000 without labor.
I am missing something here (besides the snazzy carbon fiber engine cover which goes for about 500.00) or is he really going to sucker 50 people to pay that kind of money?

Yes peter, I think your missing a lot. Just your last statement alone points to part of it...YOu calculated $17,000 without the labor...I havent checked to see if thats accurate or not but lets assume it is....How much labor do you think is involved? I mean, for the SC installation alone, they get 21 hrs...My BMW dealer charges $85/hr, so thats almost $2000 just for the SC installation. Remember, these 150 cars (50 ea M roadster, Cpe, and 5) are going to be sold in BMW Dealser's showrooms, so the labor is obviously being built into the price....And, if you want your car converted and you send it out there, either way, labor has got to be in the price. So if its $2k just for the blower, I can tell you from researching his R&D articles over the summer that there's a ton of plumbing work involved, and that the SC install is probably one of the easier parts of the total system to install. I'm not saying I can account for the difference between the total nut of $37K and the $17K you figured, but, you can certainly bet that what you priced at $17K from Bekkers will cost a whole lot more from Dinan...It always does...But of course, please remember that Dinan is matching the BMW 4 yr warranty on these cars...Well, certainly that accounts for a good chunk of the difference. And of course you ve left out a lot of parts...I only notice the Oil Cooler right off the bat, but there are quite a few more. YOu quote $900 for the flywheel, but you totally ignore the Heavy Duty, lightwt, Clutch which Dinan is using. They get somewhere near $3k for this clutch if you just source the part for your car....Anyway, overall, there are those that understand buying from Dinan, and are happy with the results, and there are those who are just buying price, who will never get it. Lastly, when all is said and done, you have a 400 hp supercar that will turn low to mid 4 second 0-60 runs, and corner with the best cars in the world, for the price of a 996. And, in a lot of categories the Dinan ISR3 will outperform it...Dont be surprised if he sells out pretty quick.



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