In Reply to: agree in part... (more) posted by dp on June 09, 1999 at 00:58:41:
If one were to suppose that all vehicles have a certain amount of soul, and create a scale where a Toyota Sienna is a 1 and a Brough Superior is a 100, I would say both Z3's and Ferrari F40's would be at least above room temperature.
: a soulful ride should indeed demand your attention - and reward it. but not just by virtue or the fact that it would fall over if you fail to focus on keeping it shiny side up. in my opinion many japanese bikes suffer from the same 'problem' that japanese performance cars do - they are too effortless. refined to soulless perfection by cheerful consensus. can't fault them on numbers or reliability, but something is missing. to say nothing of a fully loaded goldwing. my ducati 900 is slower than most jap 600's, but i think it has ten times the soul. i recently got a ride in a ferrari f40 and a lancia stratos - trust me, no latte sipping there. neither comes with a radio. my ///M coupe by virtue of its quirky personality has a lot of soul, and its performance demands that i always pull over to the side of the road to use the cellphone. but a non-///M bimmer is suspect in my opinion... and anything with an automatic is an appliance on wheels. but that's MHO.
: : If you can talk on a cell phone, sip latte and floss your teeth all at the same time while operating a vehicle, it cannot have soul! To have soul it must be capable of and willing to kill you if you don't give it your undivided attention, and in exchange for doing so it bestows upon you unimaginable thrills that hurl a middle finger in the face of the grim reaper. No air bags. No crash zones. No seat belts. No roll hoops. Just a helmet, leathers and oneness with the machine. That is a ride with soul!
: : Now, my Z3 has more "character" than most cars they're cranking out today, and is a joy to drive, but like all it's 4-wheeled brethren it does not quite have soul. Just one opinion.
: : : It would make more sense to argue that the 'soul' of BMW cars is in fact an oxymoron.
: : : In as much as Germans are known for their cold efficent work ethic and the japanese known for keritsu and togetherness..
: : : Thus,the 'soul' belongs to japanese cars due to their warm pudgy soft suspensions and bright interiors (things we were attracted to as children) BUT as we have grown older and entred the rat race the cold souless german cars (turn and stop NOW!!)are what gives us pleasure because we've been conditioned this way.
: : : In fact much like everyone likes to retire in the carribbean or wilderness, we must secretly long for japanese cars...,or should I just put the doobie down??