In Reply to: give it up, junior... posted by observer on February 13, 2000 at 23:26:11:
: This may cause some of you to check your egos at the door when you see what a 10g less honda can do with a m roadster.
: Point A) Sorry, but once you factor in the vaseline tax, your Dad's S2000 cost him just as much, if not more than the ///M.
: Point B) A 1983 Toyota Carolla with a nitrous and turbo set-up would blow the doors off of your Dad's S2000 for approximately $20,000 less...now who's the chump?
: Point C) It's still just a Honda. A "nice" Honda, sure, but for the same price your Dad could've bought a used NSX or a used 911 turbo. You obviously care more about being a show-off with the latest gadget on the block than you do about "actual" performance, or the joy that comes with owning and driving a great car.
: Point D) I hope you eventually learn that you can't carry on in this manner throughout your whole life. This hostility, this pointless antagonism, this unnecessary machismo, will eventually bitch-slap you upside the head one of these days. No matter how nice your Dad's car is, or how much money your Dad has, neither will save you that fateful and inevitable day when you piss off the wrong person in traffic or act flippant and superior to someone with more authority than you, such as a police officer or a judge. Unfortunately for yourself, you seem to be the type of person who needs to learn by experience, rather than voluntarily deciding to be a more decent human being, and for that, I'm sure most of us on this board feel nothing but pity and empathy for your most pathetic plight. The Z3 board is a very closely knit, warm and friendly community, and in a period of about 48 hours or so, you have managed to alienate and offend about 99% of the people here, most of whom are some of the best people you could ever get to know.
: Good luck with the choices you make in the future.
Whoa! Where did this thread come from? I find it truly embarrassing if an S2000 owner has been antagonizing the board. You are absolutely right that the Z3 community is made up primarily of a great group of people; but you're wrong if you assume the S2000 is an inferior car. It's a great car that seems--long term results aren't in--of equal engineering quality with the BMWs.
It does seem that we are all so obsessed with track, and drag strip performance, that we don't ask the question how much pleasure our vehicles brings us as daily drivers. There are a whole bunch of Miata drivers out there who could but won't spend the extra money for either any of the Z3s or the Honda.
Hoping this cools down, and that civility prevails.