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In Reply to: homecoming 2000 discussion posted by anonymous on March 05, 2000 at 19:37:33:
Beyond the yearly homecoming, I see little to no value in what the Z Register provides to it's members. If the CCA can take over the homecoming and provide the same experience to Z3 owners that we've seen in the past (and if we can side-step the politics that seem to be a big part of the CCA...) then I say more power to them...
RCC
: I am NOT trying to stir the pot, just trying to give another view on the
: subject.
: From what I was told the last 2 years, BMW NA WANTED to get involved
: with the Homecoming BUT, as Wayne stated, the BMW AG rules on how
: divisions can interact with enthusiast groups prevented that. I do not
: know how BMW MC was able to get around this issue. I know BMW MC spent a
: helluva lot of money on the festivities. I had a great time both times I
: attended.
: I am a CCA member. Since I live about 70 miles from the chapter I am
: assigned to I don't attend many of their events (an occasional autox
: here and there). I am a member of the CCA mainly due to the Roundel.
: Another benefit I received was the great event put on by the Peachtree
: chapter at the Petit Le Mans last September.
: I didn't join the Z register in the beginning mainly due to laziness.
: When some people I knew got their first Z register letter I read it and
: was not impressed. 99% of the information was information taken for this
: message board, I decided to pass on the membership fee (was is $20 or
: $30? I forget. Whatever it was I didn't see it worth my money.)
: Summer 1998 rolls around....I get my application for HC 1998. The fees
: for register members and non-members are different. I did some
: calculations and determine it is cheaper to become a member than to pay
: the non-member fee.
: I don't have all the details, but from what I was told by BMW employees,
: the majority of the costs for all the HCs was bore by BMW MC not
: registration fees.
: With all these things, I didn't see my money going to the register as
: adding any value to ME. I also think that many Z register members would
: not have joined if it weren't for HC. There goes a lot of the Z
: register's income if that is taken away.
: I guess my biggest problem was the fact that the Z register was not run
: as a not for profit. I am NOT saying that I don't think that Wayne and
: Amy shouldn't have been compensated for their actions but doing the math
: it seemed a bit excessive for what the collective group received. Again,
: this is just MY OPINION.
:
: As far as Wayne's letter (http://www.bmwregisters.com/hmcom2000.htm)
: goes I guess I don't see the problems with the requirements to be a
: chartered SIG. Not for profit? Great, my biggest problem with the Z
: register in the first place. CCA taking over dues? Fine, probably be
: cheaper for members of both groups. Publication every 90 days? Might
: make the publications smaller. Election of officials? That's a bad
: thing? 2 people make all decisions now.
: Granted the Z3 group is a different kind of breed. Many owners I feel
: never would have been BMW owners if it weren't for the Z3. I think the Z
: register (errr Z3 CCA) should be added as part of the BMW CCA but I
: think some sort of compromise needs to be worked out with the CCA to
: give the Z3 group a bit more autonomy then the other SIGs that exist
: have.
: I am sure there is an acceptable compromise out there. Remember there
: are 2 sides to every story, Wayne's letter is only one side. If we work
: together maybe we can solve this situation and get HC 2000 back on
: track.
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