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In Reply to: You are all welcome at my house instead! (eom) posted by DC on March 05, 2000 at 19:50:46:
: : I am NOT trying to stir the pot, just trying to give another view on the
: : subject.
: : From what I was told the last 2 years, BMW NA WANTED to get involved
: : with the Homecoming BUT, as Wayne stated, the BMW AG rules on how
: : divisions can interact with enthusiast groups prevented that. I do not
: : know how BMW MC was able to get around this issue. I know BMW MC spent a
: : helluva lot of money on the festivities. I had a great time both times I
: : attended.
: : I am a CCA member. Since I live about 70 miles from the chapter I am
: : assigned to I don't attend many of their events (an occasional autox
: : here and there). I am a member of the CCA mainly due to the Roundel.
: : Another benefit I received was the great event put on by the Peachtree
: : chapter at the Petit Le Mans last September.
: : I didn't join the Z register in the beginning mainly due to laziness.
: : When some people I knew got their first Z register letter I read it and
: : was not impressed. 99% of the information was information taken for this
: : message board, I decided to pass on the membership fee (was is $20 or
: : $30? I forget. Whatever it was I didn't see it worth my money.)
: : Summer 1998 rolls around....I get my application for HC 1998. The fees
: : for register members and non-members are different. I did some
: : calculations and determine it is cheaper to become a member than to pay
: : the non-member fee.
: : I don't have all the details, but from what I was told by BMW employees,
: : the majority of the costs for all the HCs was bore by BMW MC not
: : registration fees.
: : With all these things, I didn't see my money going to the register as
: : adding any value to ME. I also think that many Z register members would
: : not have joined if it weren't for HC. There goes a lot of the Z
: : register's income if that is taken away.
: : I guess my biggest problem was the fact that the Z register was not run
: : as a not for profit. I am NOT saying that I don't think that Wayne and
: : Amy shouldn't have been compensated for their actions but doing the math
: : it seemed a bit excessive for what the collective group received. Again,
: : this is just MY OPINION.
: :
: : As far as Wayne's letter (http://www.bmwregisters.com/hmcom2000.htm)
: : goes I guess I don't see the problems with the requirements to be a
: : chartered SIG. Not for profit? Great, my biggest problem with the Z
: : register in the first place. CCA taking over dues? Fine, probably be
: : cheaper for members of both groups. Publication every 90 days? Might
: : make the publications smaller. Election of officials? That's a bad
: : thing? 2 people make all decisions now.
: : Granted the Z3 group is a different kind of breed. Many owners I feel
: : never would have been BMW owners if it weren't for the Z3. I think the Z
: : register (errr Z3 CCA) should be added as part of the BMW CCA but I
: : think some sort of compromise needs to be worked out with the CCA to
: : give the Z3 group a bit more autonomy then the other SIGs that exist
: : have.
: : I am sure there is an acceptable compromise out there. Remember there
: : are 2 sides to every story, Wayne's letter is only one side. If we work
: : together maybe we can solve this situation and get HC 2000 back on
: : track.