The complete automotive resource for buyers, sellers, and owners like you.
Car, Truck and SUV Forums at Roadfly
+ Bentley Forums
+ BMW Forums
+ Cadillac Forums
+ Chevrolet Forums
+ Ferrari Forums
+ Jaguar Forums
+ Lamborghini Forums
+ Lotus Forums
+ Mercedes-Benz Forums
+ Maserati Forums
+ MINI Forums
+ Porsche Forums
+ General Discussion
+ Marketplace Forums
Re: How About Those Esses!!! (archive)

[ Follow Ups ] [ Z3 Message Board ] [ Msg. Board FAQ ]

Posted by TBell on November 06, 2000 at 13:30:51:

In Reply to: How About Those Esses!!! posted by dpeete on November 06, 2000 at 12:35:38:

Hi Doug, we did the whole track, not the Nascar track....I am glad cuz turn 4-5, 6 the carosel, and especially turn 7 were mine!!! the Esses were great, especially when I set them up comming out of 7...unlike teh school party line I was double apexing 7 and it just shot me into the esses...I got to where I gave up some on the Esses and turn 8 to get into turn 8a by getting into the power earlyer I was able to carry way more speed clear to 11....I actually stayed about 1/2 throttle after 7 threw the esses then as I approched 8 gave it slightly more throttle and then liffed to begin rotation into 8 and then squeezed it to the floor way before I even got to 8....this equated to way more speed threw 8a,9 and 10....I was catching cars like crazy...they were gaining about 2 car lenghths thew 8, but I was getting back 7-8 car lengths thew what a rush!!!!

My favorite was 7 though...I was double apexing as I said..and my instructor told me to be more agressive in attaching the we were early apexing the first corner, lifting and rotating the car, so now it's going side ways and when lined up with the second apex stabbing the power what a rush!!!! It's really cool when your yelling Yes, YES!! and the instructor is yelling Yahooooo....This is way more fun than anyone should be allowed to have :) Take care, Tom

Hello Tom,
Yes, Sears rocks! Aren't the esses the best? We have a Miata group event there in Mar... contact me for details.

Did you run the full track or did you run the Nascar-style track?

Doug On The Carousel Last Year

Toby and I went to Sears Point with the Golden Gate CCA Chapter high performane driving school this week end...and all I have to say is Yaaaahhhhhooooo...I now have a favorite track!!!

This is the last track in California for me to do as I have done Laguna Seca, Buttonwillow, Willow Springs, Thunderhill and Las Vegas, and I thrilled to leave the best for last!! I was told that technically Sears was one of the most technical in the country and I know that first hand...The blind Apexes, blind exits, off camber, elevation changes, pavement material varriations, yada yada I could go on and on....but this track is Awesome...there are some spots that are very unforgiving as the walls are very close, but it is just an absolute hoot once you get it down...

The last session yesterday, I caught up with a train of 6 cars moving fairly well and there was about 30-40 seconds to the next car behind instead of comming into the pits to make room I talked to my instructor about making our own space by letting off the throttle after turn 11 up to turn 2 to make open track...then we strated to play with different lines in different corners just having a ball, and each time by turn 11 we'd be up with the train and do the same thing again....we did this for 6 laps and each time giving them more and more of a head start, and each time catching them before 11....what a hoot....the Z3 is more than well suited to this track as it is sooo nimble and threw turns 2 threw 8 and 11 there wasn't anything that could stay with us :)

I read the some of the thread below on hp, and all of you that think that more hp is so darned important...well I say lil ol 2.8 was passing M coupes with ease, sure hp does play a roll, but far less than you may think...I'll take my 2.8 with track tires over anyones M roadster or coupe on street tires any day....the biggest improvement that anyone can make is to get track time....your 1.9,2.3,2.8 or 3.0 is a better car than you are a driver, and a 2.8 driven at 80% of it's capability will have lower lap times than an M Roadster or Coupe driven at 60 to 70%.

Well I take it back...hp is important...but the hp between your ears is more important than what's on the other side of your foot :) Anyway Sear Point is a fantastic adventure and if anyone ever has a chance to do it...go for it, it is for sure my favorite track in California...I'll be working on putting the video on my web site in the next week or so, and I'll post when it is there....take care, and see ya at the track, Tom

Follow Ups:

[ Follow Ups ] [ Z3 Message Board ] [ Msg. Board FAQ ]
Questions, comments, or problems, please visit the Roadfly help desk. Logo © 1997 - 2018 Jump Internet Inc. All rights reserved.