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Ugly...like our coupes? (archive)

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Posted by Zandr on May 01, 2000 at 15:56:42:

In Reply to: Whatever... the car is seriously ugly... posted by kwillmorth on May 01, 2000 at 11:52:54:

The MR2 design is growing on me, actually. I hated the Coupe when I first saw it. Now I see it for the Gloriously Ugly car that it is. ;)

: Light weight does not a great car make. 3300 +/- can be plenty fast - i.e. Corvette, NASCAR race cars, and others...

Sure, but drive an E36 M3 Lux, then drive an E36 M3 LTW. Weight is Bad. But weight for good reason can be worth it. Remember, horsepower only counteracts weight when you're going forward. Remove weight and your braking and cornering improve too.


The recent fly-weight cars, like the MR2 and the Honda S200, certainly haven't set the industry on its ear in any performance category.

But the light-by-design Miata has dominated SSB and SSC before that.


while the real fast cars are all in the 3100+ range (Porsche, BMW. Ferrari, Corvette, etc.....) We're talking door slammers here, not F1 cars. we're also talking bigger cars in general.

At a much, much higher sticker price. It will cost much less to make a 2100lb car as fast as a 3100lb car.


: They should maybe be looking to what makes Bimmers fast, even at a supposed "weight disadvantage", not the other way around!

Money makes Bimmers fast. Big expensive engines, big expensive brakes, big expensive tires.

Not that I think that's a Bad Thing, necessarily, just a different approach than the Miatas and MR2s. (I'm not an S2000 fan, btw.)

I rather like both approaches, as evidenced by my car collection: M Coupe and E34 540i at one end, Miata and Lancia Fulvia at the other. (Where's a Caterham 7 when I need one?)

Just my $0.02

-Zandr


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