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In Reply to: Re: opinion on which lasts longer, A032R or Kuhmo? posted by Harvey on April 02, 2001 at 13:51:43:
I personally haven't found much wear on my Kumhos from the commute to the track (90 miles to LS, 50 miles to Sears Point and God only knows how many miles to Thunderhill). It is the outer shoulders that were wearing. My main commute issue with the Kumhos is driving through water, which can be scary.
I only got 6 days out of my front Kumhos (mostly because my camber was less then ideal... they started wearing pretty nicely for the last two events when I got the camber plates installed), the backs might see 10 days. So they definitely are softer then the Yok's and more sensitive to smaller camber.
In the end I agree that the a032r's might be a better tire then the Kumhos are R1'a for some people. But just about every serious track driver I have talked to said that the a032r's can quickly become a limiting factor. As such I am personally going to shod my car with the Toyo's when they are ready later this month. I can then validate that Toyos wear ratings and water-shedding tread don't have to compromise grip. And that would make them a much better value in my mind then the a032r.
Doug
I agree that the Kumhos And other race tires are stickier than the A032 but to say it has no more grip than a standard hi-po street tire is not correct My experience is that the A032 falls in the middle. At Second Creek track ( near Denver) the A032s were almost 2.5 sec a lap faster than Yoko A520's(which I consider a pretty good dry street tire) but were almost 2 sec/ slower than the Goodrich R1's. If you have to drive to the track on a "race" tire the A032 is the only way to go - I've gotten as many as 30 track days out of 6 tires w/ proper rotaton/ remounting side to side & proper inflation on my M3 coupe.